luv these subjects -- wooow
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I love pissing contests..
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Anyway, I'm just going to say 1 more thing, and then let this go: "Beauty" is not an artistic movement, nor is it a thesis, nor anything one can "persue" in any meaningful sense. Declairing that the goal of one's life or work is "beauty" is a non-statement. As the whole concept of beauty is completely subjective saying "my life is about beauty" is like if someone were to ask me what my plays were about and I told them "they're about good theatre". It sounds nice, but at the end of the day I haven't exchanged any information at all, I've just stated a vaguely defined goal based upon my own personal preferences. And that's stupid. |
3am, boredom, and PhotoBooth:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1784390_n.jpg Aye? http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5577768_n.jpg |
Had fun being a camera whore last night, due to boredom as well. I played around, using an old florescent lamp and the results came out nice, even though I was using a really cheapo digital camera.
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thanks for the smile.. Is that your wardrobe behind you? If it is you are way too neat. |
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Can't remember if I posted this before, but I cut off my hair! Yay
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That definitely looks much better than your old hair.
Apologies for the madwoman's hairy eyeball look, I was mildly inebriated :p ( and for some reason the flash has made my hair look massively red, when in reality it is nowhere near that bright whatsoever ) http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...n/DSC00397.jpg |
LOL Welcome back, Ana. What a beautiful scowl you have ;)
HT, The flash and soft focus flatter you. Then again, everything flatters you! :D |
Thanks :)
Yeah, people have been telling me it looks better =) I am gonna let it grow though, going to check how all long hair looks for me. |
The debate about "beauty", "aesthetics", and "art" is quite interesting. While communication (for the sake of others) is undeniably one of the most important aspects of art, expression (for the sake of one's self) is equally important. Doubtless many great pieces of art were created for purely selfish reasons. Despanan and Kontan, I could understand your saying something like "dude, you might get hurt dressing like that" or "you won't be successful dressing like that" or even "those clothes will have a negative influence on society in some way", but trying to make Raza justify his clothing based upon his artistic motivations seems a bit unreasonable. As artists, surely you two do/create things merely for your own enjoyment/inspiration sometimes, eh? What is the problem with doing so?
On the other hand of course, this may at its core be just a bit of "gnet-style" rough play. In that case though, do remember that Raza's wasn't the first jab here. |
By the way, 'lots of nice photos recently; you all look good. I'm glad that Anrsh is back too.
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Ahoi! Aplologies for the slow reply. Weekend happened.
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Now, why you would want to accumulate all that expertise and not apply it, I don't pretend to understand. But that's what the discussion since has been about, and I'm looking forward to your contributions once you calm down some. =) Quote:
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Seriously. You have made no attempt to understand what I'm saying; you're just dismissing everything that doesn't ring true to what you value about yourself, the exact same mistake I made to a lesser degree when I guessed your creative drive from your appearance. I'd get into the point with you, but you honestly don't really have one. |
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But seriously, it is very relevant, if only to communicate that my goals are vaguely defined and built entirely on personal preference. After all, you two clearly share different intentions. But let me turn this around on your. Acting to create something you find beautiful makes sense. There are no objective values in life, no absolute goods or bads; non-sentient nature just is. Sentient nature has something else to go by: the experience of things as pleasurable or painful, fitting or dissonant. This is the only rational basis for action we'll ever have, because it's the only outcome that transcends just being a conclusion or material rearrangement and actually affects those mechanics that are our basis for 'value'. Aesthetics are my pet theory on the human experience of joy, and my approach to life. Art is just a tiny part of that, really. What do you do with your art? You 'communicate'. Why is that a good thing? Are you teaching the world some ideological lesson that you think it lacks? Will people be better off with the information they infer from you, or will you have gained something once they've done so? Well, possibly on all those counts, but each and every one of them must be traced back to some form of joy or well-being before it has any value. If you improve the world with messages of atheism and anarchy, that's awesome by me... but in a best case scenario, where they get understood and applied to good effect, they'll still only have made people's lives more enjoyable - and in the far more realistic scenario of that not happening within your lifetime, all you'll have is the satisfaction of having tried. So why not acknowledge this as your goal from the start? |
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Raza needs to get over him/herself.
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Raza, get over yourself.
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'Nyway, for someone bent on communication over appearances, I'm not picking your voice out of the crowd much either. |
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From what I can tell Raza, you have started an argument with Kontan because he dresses how he wants to dress and that doesn't strike you as original enough. You want him to dress how you dress, because that is the sign of originality and anything other than your tired attempts to fit into an aesthetic of forced pseudo-individuality is banal. Basically, you're a mallgoth with spellcheck and I hope you get ***** by some burly biker dudes with tattoos.
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