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Versus · 09-22-2012, 05:05 PM

You're ignoring race, again. More specifically, you're ignoring that PoC are substantially disadvantaged in all of those instances to white people within their own class, and that difference broadens the closer to poverty they become. Literally, being a PoC makes being poor more pronounced in addition to stacking up with the omnipresent and inescapable systemic racism. I feel like I need to say that again: PoC are significantly disadvantaged regardless of their class. Fixing the differences in wealth will not suddenly change that; seven angels will not descend from the heavens and wrap themselves around us to uplift our lives into a brave new world. White people will get what they want and the rest will be thrown under the bus. Consult any point in American history where poverty or wealth was a stark index and you will not see anything different.

You know what? That really gets to me. How do you expect PoC to be motivated for class equality when we aren't even on the same level of poor? We're not even equals, Jonathan. This isn't just a class difference like it is for you. This is class + caste for what is becoming the majority of the American population. Any possible discourse or partnership needs to be free of that thing you insist will just work itself out or get it's place in line assuming that you even acknowledge it's there.

http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/soc/facul.../ASRv69n2p.pdf

http://www.lsu.edu/capergroup/resour...r2005-wp02.pdf

09-22-2012, 05:05 PM	#112
Versus Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,812	You're ignoring race, again. More specifically, you're ignoring that PoC are substantially disadvantaged in all of those instances to white people within their own class, and that difference broadens the closer to poverty they become. Literally, being a PoC makes being poor more pronounced in addition to stacking up with the omnipresent and inescapable systemic racism. I feel like I need to say that again: PoC are significantly disadvantaged regardless of their class. Fixing the differences in wealth will not suddenly change that; seven angels will not descend from the heavens and wrap themselves around us to uplift our lives into a brave new world. White people will get what they want and the rest will be thrown under the bus. Consult any point in American history where poverty or wealth was a stark index and you will not see anything different. You know what? That really gets to me. How do you expect PoC to be motivated for class equality when we aren't even on the same level of poor? We're not even equals, Jonathan. This isn't just a class difference like it is for you. This is class + caste for what is becoming the majority of the American population. Any possible discourse or partnership needs to be free of that thing you insist will just work itself out or get it's place in line assuming that you even acknowledge it's there. http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/soc/facul.../ASRv69n2p.pdf http://www.lsu.edu/capergroup/resour...r2005-wp02.pdf __________________ Woke up with fifty enemies plottin' my death All fifty seein' visions of me shot in the chest Couldn't rest, nah nigga I was stressed Had me creepin' 'round corners, homie sleepin' in my vest. -Breathin, Tupac.