Message of Salvation - Page 19

pothead · 10-16-2011, 07:06 PM

Jesus died to satisfy the wrath of God

pothead · 10-16-2011, 09:44 PM

mormonism is a cult

Miss Absynthe · 10-16-2011, 11:06 PM

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cult/kəlt/
Noun:
1. A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
2. A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.

Yeah, so I would dare say that within this community your version of Christianity is also a cult.

pothead · 10-17-2011, 04:44 PM

yeah i belong to a cult yeah sure, my church is more main stream then the mormons

Miss Absynthe · 10-17-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pothead

yeah i belong to a cult yeah sure, my church is more main stream then the mormons

The qualifier to my statement was that in this community you could be referred to as a cultist - seeing as you are in the minority and it would be a safe bet that the majority of people here would see your religious practices as strange.

pothead · 10-17-2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Absynthe

The qualifier to my statement was that in this community you could be referred to as a cultist - seeing as you are in the minority and it would be a safe bet that the majority of people here would see your religious practices as strange.

that is strange my religios practices is this

Jam 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself unspotted from the world.

which means I visit the fatherless, and the widows as a religious practice, does that really seem strange?

also there is a few other people here that believe the same way that I do

Alan · 10-17-2011, 07:17 PM

No. None of us do.

Catch · 10-17-2011, 07:52 PM

It turns out Mormonism is a Cult.

http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/artic...-lds-cult.html

Ya, that's some funny Mormon Humor.

Kasdeja · 10-17-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Lahnger

Our pothead, who art in forums,
shallow be thy game.
Thy dogma come,
ignored by some,
IRL as it is in Gnet.
Give us this day our daily levity,
and forgive us our zealousness
as we forgive those who are zealous against us.
Lead us not into frustration,
but deliver us from trollery.
Yeah boiiiiiiiiiiiiii!

Ben, that was freaking awesome! I actually laughed out loud...

pothead · 10-17-2011, 10:01 PM

yeah alan a few people here do believe the same I do, rememeber that wolf guy

Miss Absynthe · 10-18-2011, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pothead

that is strange my religios practices is this

Jam 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself unspotted from the world.

which means I visit the fatherless, and the widows as a religious practice, does that really seem strange?

also there is a few other people here that believe the same way that I do

But what about James 1:26?

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Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless.

You didn't keep such a tight reign on your tongue earlier when calling people morons, huh?

Anyways, aside from that... the point of that verse in James isn't to get people to visit orphans. Satanists can visit orphans and widows, it won't mean that they will be saved. The point that James was trying to make (and that is shown more fully in chapter 2), is that faith must be accompanied by deeds if it is to be a living faith. Which makes me wonder about your initial post... because it would seem as though James is saying that asking for salvation isn't enough to be saved, that you have to do good works as well...

pothead · 10-18-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Absynthe

But what about James 1:26?

You didn't keep such a tight reign on your tongue earlier when calling people morons, huh?

Anyways, aside from that... the point of that verse in James isn't to get people to visit orphans. Satanists can visit orphans and widows, it won't mean that they will be saved. The point that James was trying to make (and that is shown more fully in chapter 2), is that faith must be accompanied by deeds if it is to be a living faith. Which makes me wonder about your initial post... because it would seem as though James is saying that asking for salvation isn't enough to be saved, that you have to do good works as well...

what james is trying to say is that you are justified by your works, but that is a justification between man, and man, not God, and man, james says show me your faith without works,, and I will show you my faith by my works, works has nothing to do with geting saved, and the bible can't contradict itself, so Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

see right there paul writes that you are not saved by your works.

also I guess I'm like job in Job 6:24 Teach me, and I will hold my tongue: and cause me to understand wherein I have erred.

also what about Jam 3:8 But the tongue can no man tame; [it is] an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. ???
that just says that no man can tame their tongue

pothead · 10-18-2011, 11:50 AM

jesus paid our sin debts in full

pothead · 10-18-2011, 06:38 PM

and again Jesus paid our sin debt in full

Grausamkeit · 10-18-2011, 07:20 PM

Jesus is a cockbite.

Catch · 10-18-2011, 09:16 PM

Knowing something about the Trinity it seems like Jesus is the last person to devote your life to. Jesus was the physical man/entity. God is God and the one who does everything and known to smite people. Christ is the connection between God and Jesus; wherein, God could speak through Christ. Ergo, worshiping Jesus is against the Ten Commandments and worshiping Christ is diminishing God's role in people's life or placing someone as equal to God. Yep, seems like the only one anyone should open their hearts to or worship is God, except, God gave everyone life. Basically anyone living already has God in their life, like it or not.

pothead · 10-19-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Catch

Knowing something about the Trinity it seems like Jesus is the last person to devote your life to. Jesus was the physical man/entity. God is God and the one who does everything and known to smite people. Christ is the connection between God and Jesus; wherein, God could speak through Christ. Ergo, worshiping Jesus is against the Ten Commandments and worshiping Christ is diminishing God's role in people's life or placing someone as equal to God. Yep, seems like the only one anyone should open their hearts to or worship is God, except, God gave everyone life. Basically anyone living already has God in their life, like it or not.

you forget that Jesus is God, and equal with God the father, the bible says that Jesus is God, and even Jesus says he is God in the bible, also not everyone has God in there life, we may have life, but most ppl don't have everlasting eternal life, the kind that God gives you through Jesus, God is only in the lives of those who ask Jesus to save them

Grausamkeit · 10-19-2011, 08:09 PM

Sure, spend you whole life looking over your shoulder and being pious for some 'eternal' reward that no one can prove the existence of.....

ape descendant · 10-19-2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Catch

It turns out Mormonism is a Cult.

http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/artic...-lds-cult.html

Ya, that's some funny Mormon Humor.

Yep, along with every other religion ever.

ape descendant · 10-19-2011, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pothead

and again Jesus doesn't exist.

There, fixed that for ya.

pothead · 10-19-2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ape descendant

I am gay.

you are gay? wow fixed it for you

Miss Absynthe · 10-19-2011, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pothead

jesus paid our sin debts in full

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Originally Posted by pothead

and again Jesus paid our sin debt in full

Umm... is there an echo in here?

ape descendant · 10-20-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pothead

you are gay? wow fixed it for you

Well yeah, we're all a little gay.

Grausamkeit · 10-20-2011, 06:04 PM

Well, *I'm* not! I'm a lot gay!

Catch · 10-20-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ape descendant

Yep, along with every other religion ever.

Ya, but the somewhat pride in acknowledging it is the surprising part of it.