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Politics "Under democracy, one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule -and both commonly succeed, and are right."
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04-07-2006, 02:39 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Now its personal
My Girlfriend is crying in pain and we dont know what to do. I promised I wouldnt post but Im left with no out let. She is in serious pain and is wondering how serious this is. Are choices are bad. I can take her to the hospital where she will wait for 11 hours or more (we've been there and know that) or call an ambulance which means several thousand or try and hope its not something really serious.
Flame me all you want but the bottom line is 80 hospitals closed due to illegals and yes I blame this fu#ed up night on them as I know we wouldnt have nearly a tough decision if there werent so many of them here. Yeah I'm pissed as hell and worried. When it comes down to people you love you get angry and dont care about the argument you care about what you've lossed or could lose.
I'm scared and so is she. We dont know what to do.
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04-07-2006, 02:47 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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My girlfriend says I may have to go just less than a hundred yards down the block and ring the fire station but I've done that before with no response. Once again I blame it on the illegals for my neighbors are 90% illegals as are there kids so they dont answer anymore as its probably BS or a prank.
Thanks to all you taitors in Washington for making a couple citizens lives hell.
I'll go and ring there bell or call 9/11 and wait 5 minutes or do what ever I have to do but damn this sucks.
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04-07-2006, 03:21 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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She passed out thank god
I did the best I could and comforted her and massaged and she whimpered herself to sleep.
Have no idea what's wrong but she say's its internal. Last time this happened we had no choice but the ambulance. I hope to God she is better tomorrow. I'm fatigued and need sleep. So there I go.
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04-07-2006, 05:05 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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I hope your girlfriend is better.
I may get to the xenophobia later, but for now, I just hope your girlfriend gets better.
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"No theory, no ready-made system, no book that has ever been written will save the world.
I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
-Mikhail Bakunin
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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04-07-2006, 05:43 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 253
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I hope your girlfriend is OK.
Pranks with 911 are a shitty thing to do. People should be put in jail for it. Things like that make me really, really angry.
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This is me for forever
One of the lost ones
The one without a name
Without an honest heart
as compass
--Nightwish.
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04-08-2006, 07:21 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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The xenophobia is really uncalled for. As mentioned, it's not about color or race - it's about money.
In Ireland we have very few colors, yes here they call themselves colored and if you say black it's offensive. Africans call themselves colored people. In the states, that has a different meaning I know because of the history there, but the rest of the world black people prefer to be called colored.
So we have few here. However, we still have bad neighborhoods where cops/fire brigrade/ambulances won't go after dark without a police escort. Everyone in those neighborhoods is white. Poor, white, and just as violent and cause the same problems.
Blaming it on a 'race' or the color of ones skin is a cop out to avoid the real issue - poverty and elitism.
By keeping you at odds with your neighbors, and keeping you ever vigilant fighting against these other races, you never will rise above where you are now. Because your fighting the wrong person and getting involved in the wrong battles (ie. you will hand out petitions for say immigration reform but will abstain from helping with any living wage reforms), you shoot yerself in the foot and the upper class wins.
Tis the doctrine of Stalin. Make the rich more rich, and the poor more poor, then put the middle class in a tight spot and grind them down until there are only two classes - the ruling class and the masses.
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04-08-2006, 10:16 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The Beautiful U.S. of A.
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He's blaming it on illegals. The illegals he's talking about can be Caucasians from Canada or Eastern Europe for all you know. He never mentioned race.
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"[Brian Blair] was a punk. I can break his fucking back - break his back and make him humble and then fuck his ass ... Suplex him, put him in a camel clutch, break his back, and fuck his ass - make him humble. Teach him to respect the Iron Sheik. And I didn't do it, because for the God and Jesus, and Mr. McMahon." -Khosrow Vaziri (The Iron Sheik)
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04-10-2006, 08:13 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,587
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Binkie
He's blaming it on illegals. The illegals he's talking about can be Caucasians from Canada or Eastern Europe for all you know. He never mentioned race.
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Did you miss the whole prussian blue thread. He claimed mexicans. Correct me if I am wrong 4mytribe, but you distinctly said people of the latino perssuasion on more than one occassion?
And watching the world news today and yesterday, all the protests over the illegal immagrant laws, didn't see many Eastern European groups out there? I mean, I'm sure they are they, I know many in NYC, but not hundreds of thousands, especially those out there.
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04-10-2006, 08:33 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I own Pitseleh!!
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That's a pretty weak excuse to not take someone you supposedly 'love' to the hospital!
If you really cared about her you would've been at the hospital and not posting on a messageboard.
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04-10-2006, 01:47 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hollywierd
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Originally Posted by 4mytribe
Flame me all you want but the bottom line is 80 hospitals closed due to illegals and yes I blame this fu#ed up night on them as I know we wouldnt have nearly a tough decision if there werent so many of them here. .....
I'm scared and so is she. We dont know what to do.
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K......so......ah........right.
Here's the thing. It is true that hospitals have been closing all over the US. But it has nothing to do with illegal immigrants. Hospitals close mostly because they can't make their shareholders happy and the investors pull out. (Can I point out how sick it is that you can say those kinds of things about a hospital. When did health become a consumer good?) And the reason you don't want to go to the hospital has nothing to do with illegal immigrants. You don't want to go because, like a lot of people in this country, you work at a job that doesn't provide a health insurance option. That's not immigration, that's cheep corporations. The only tuff decision you faced that night was if you were willing to let the government garnish your wages when you didn't pay your hospital bill. Remember, they still have to help you if you have insurance or not.
And as for being scared...you probably should be. Intense pain in the belly like that is never a good thing. Gas will hurt, but rarely enough to make you pass out. I'd say insurance or no you still need to get your girl to the doctor. If you’re lucky her appendix isn't inflamed.
But that's just my opinion.
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04-10-2006, 04:45 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The Beautiful U.S. of A.
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Originally Posted by CptSternn
Did you miss the whole prussian blue thread. He claimed mexicans. Correct me if I am wrong 4mytribe, but you distinctly said people of the latino perssuasion on more than one occassion?
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I saw him talking about Mexicans and illegals... respectively in a different set of posts. When he spoke of illegals, or living in an immigrant neighborhood, I saw nothing of where those immigrants originated from. Nor did I see any post that linked all illegals to being non-white or mexicans. I may be wrong... I may have read wrong... but I think I'll let 4mytribe go ahead and speak his own words when he responds to this thread.
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And watching the world news today and yesterday, all the protests over the illegal immagrant laws, didn't see many Eastern European groups out there? I mean, I'm sure they are they, I know many in NYC, but not hundreds of thousands, especially those out there.
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Your point is? Illegal aliens in this country come in all different shapes, sizes, ages, races, and creeds. Equating them all into being " Mexicans" is an ignorant stereotype.
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"[Brian Blair] was a punk. I can break his fucking back - break his back and make him humble and then fuck his ass ... Suplex him, put him in a camel clutch, break his back, and fuck his ass - make him humble. Teach him to respect the Iron Sheik. And I didn't do it, because for the God and Jesus, and Mr. McMahon." -Khosrow Vaziri (The Iron Sheik)
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04-10-2006, 05:01 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hollywierd
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Originally Posted by Binkie
Your point is? Illegal aliens in this country come in all different shapes, sizes, ages, races, and creeds. Equating them all into being "Mexicans" is an ignorant stereotype.
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I agree! Except that all the current immigration reform going on in the US is centered on the Mexican border. Now I could be wrong about that...but I know I heard about a bill that would have us building the equivalent to the Great Wall of China between us and Mexico, but no great wall between us and Canada. So really when you are talking about the current immigration laws, you are talking mostly about Mexican immigration.
But then again I live in LA, and that's closer to Mexico than Canada
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04-10-2006, 08:09 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The Beautiful U.S. of A.
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Originally Posted by Xnguela
You must have missed it, Binks. There is this White Supremacist forum online and they made a thread about how we were dissing Lynx and Lamb (the Prussian Blue girls) and how they should all come and troll us. That's where 4mytribe came from. From a White Supremacist site.
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Yes, I came across several of his starkly phrased remarks, but supposedly ( according to him), he doesn't treat other races as inferior. I didn't exactly see any blatant statements that connected all illegals to being hispanics or people from Mexico on that thread.
I mean I just went over it a while ago and looked through most of his remarks. The few times he did bring up illegal aliens and immigrants, it was vaguely phrased. If it wasn't stated clearly before, I'd like to hear from him whether or not he knows illegal immigrants, especially in California, also include Caucasians/Whites.
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"[Brian Blair] was a punk. I can break his fucking back - break his back and make him humble and then fuck his ass ... Suplex him, put him in a camel clutch, break his back, and fuck his ass - make him humble. Teach him to respect the Iron Sheik. And I didn't do it, because for the God and Jesus, and Mr. McMahon." -Khosrow Vaziri (The Iron Sheik)
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04-10-2006, 08:12 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The Beautiful U.S. of A.
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Originally Posted by Isibell
Except that all the current immigration reform going on in the US is centered on the Mexican border. Now I could be wrong about that...but I know I heard about a bill that would have us building the equivalent to the Great Wall of China between us and Mexico, but no great wall between us and Canada. So really when you are talking about the current immigration laws, you are talking mostly about Mexican immigration.
But then again I live in LA, and that's closer to Mexico than Canada
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This is irrelevant though. He was talking about illegals ( I'm assuming as a whole) in California who take up hospital beds and whatnot. Illegals in California include alot of people from Russia and the former Eastern Bloc ( including the now Czech Republic and Slovakia) who overstay their legal visas and become illegal aliens in this country. Most of these folks tend to be Caucasians. Atop of that you have Chinese immigrants/aliens and those from a wide array of other origins.
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"[Brian Blair] was a punk. I can break his fucking back - break his back and make him humble and then fuck his ass ... Suplex him, put him in a camel clutch, break his back, and fuck his ass - make him humble. Teach him to respect the Iron Sheik. And I didn't do it, because for the God and Jesus, and Mr. McMahon." -Khosrow Vaziri (The Iron Sheik)
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04-10-2006, 09:43 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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Yeah, but he being racist will obviously refer to mexicans as illegals more than anything
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"No theory, no ready-made system, no book that has ever been written will save the world.
I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
-Mikhail Bakunin
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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04-10-2006, 10:12 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: 750 mi north of AZ equivalent to Derry, Maine
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Dude, i don't give a shit if you are racist or not, generally hospitals suck. I hope your girl gets better, and heals up soon. God bless you both. and I'll probably get flamed like hell for that.
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"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with catsup." - unknown
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Originally Posted by Stormtrooper of Death
(shouts) WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG??!!?
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Originally Posted by Beneath the Shadows
Because some people are dicks. And not everyone else is gay.
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04-10-2006, 10:19 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: 750 mi north of AZ equivalent to Derry, Maine
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Note to all who have issue with my remark: I know a few people who have been very hurt by members of other races, sparking hatred of that group. I am not condoning that hatred, I only say how can more hate directed at the racist help them think any different? The only thing that will help is someone of that group reaching out in kindness. Repeatedly.
And as for the God bless you thing, hell yeah, anyone in that kind of pain, or who cares for them needs that blessing. Whether you believe in it or not.
This guy is hurting and reaching out, no matter how fucked up or misled his views maybe. Bitching at him won't change it. Caring will.
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"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with catsup." - unknown
question:
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Originally Posted by Stormtrooper of Death
(shouts) WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG??!!?
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answer:
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Originally Posted by Beneath the Shadows
Because some people are dicks. And not everyone else is gay.
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04-11-2006, 06:25 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: couch-surfer
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Originally Posted by emeraldlonewoulf
Bitching at him won't change it. Caring will.
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They weren't bitching at someone with a specific and viable claim of any kind, they were bitching out a petulant creature for using sever abdominal cramping in his girlfriend as a tool to rant about both illegal minority members receiving health care as well as prank phone calls made by the children of same.
Now read that again - he was using the pain of another to further his own agenda. Sorry, but doing that means you turn in all your "Care for Me" cards and go straight to Fucking Wanker Town. Do not pass Go, do not collect sympathy of any kind.
His girlfriend is the one I extend my heart too, since unnecessary pain is always unwelcome and horrible. Plus, she's stuck with this guy who thinks, at least this time, that she works pretty well as a means to an end. Screw that.
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04-11-2006, 06:32 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by Xnguela
You must have missed it, Binks. There is this White Supremacist forum online and they made a thread about how we were dissing Lynx and Lamb (the Prussian Blue girls) and how they should all come and troll us. That's where 4mytribe came from. From a White Supremacist site.
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Indeed, the username is a hint to his "political" leanings. This is the only occassion I will ever stoop to use this phrase, but it seems so fitting : What a fucktard.
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Petrified for the millionth time...
Slowly my soul evaporates
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04-11-2006, 07:27 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Behind you ... (well, if your back's to London)
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I give him a ten for sheer tenacity.
And a six for grammar. Say it with me, kid: the apostrophe will not harm me. The apostrophe is my friend.
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The meek shall inherit the earth. Just as soon as the rest of us have finished with it.
A dream is just a nightmare with lipstick ~ Toni Morrison
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04-11-2006, 01:04 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Right Here
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Originally Posted by Wise Child
Say it with me, kid:
the apostrophe will not harm me.
The apostrophe is my friend.
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Bwahahahahahaha!!!
Oh yeah, you're still funny as hell..
Does a Mom proud..
*sniffle*
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04-11-2006, 01:33 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Behind you ... (well, if your back's to London)
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*basks in the beautiful glow of foster-parental affection* Missed ya the last few days, EPS!
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The meek shall inherit the earth. Just as soon as the rest of us have finished with it.
A dream is just a nightmare with lipstick ~ Toni Morrison
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04-11-2006, 01:43 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Albany, NY
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Forgive me if this has already been addressed, but if this fellow's woman was in such dire straits why the FUCK was he posting about in on the interweb? Jesus, he even did little status reports. "She passed out? Dear lord! To the internet! I must alert the forums!" No, you must alert the PARAMEDICS. Am I the only one who finds this idiotic lack of prioritization more disturbing than his prediliction for racist tripe?
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04-11-2006, 01:52 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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It's up there. But I find him ridiculous in so many different ways, it's hard to pick just one.
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The meek shall inherit the earth. Just as soon as the rest of us have finished with it.
A dream is just a nightmare with lipstick ~ Toni Morrison
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04-11-2006, 02:00 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
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No, it's not just you Pinstripes..
But that one is a lost cause..
Here is the PM he felt the need to send me when he created this thread;
04-07-2006, 03:00 AM
4mytribe
Senior Member
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Yeah it does get personal
I hear you on your story and how the immigration issues hit you but it hit me tonight. And tonight I dont give a flying fuck about you or your family I care about mine. My family wouldnt have to make potentially life threatening decisions tonight if it werent for illegals. We had to make that choice and hopefully we made the right choice. This is where it does get personal. When it comes down to you or me ..... then fuck you.
I want whats best for and mine first as do you so in the end there will likely be conflict as the two sides are already at extreme odds.
Its nights like this when it gets cystal.
Who needs a Laxative when you have people like this slithering around?
*sigh*
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