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03-26-2009, 02:16 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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What the fuck is goth anymore?
Is it lost?
This is how I see it. Goths used to stand for something and be something, it became an overpopulated society after people decided it was "cool" the community was over run with ignorant conformist fuckwhits and it got screwed up. Punks came about and the same thing happened to them, that died down a bit and people came back to "the gothic trend" which at that point wasn't what the original gothic culture reallu was, then we get offshoots of "emo's" and "vamp" people...basically fags and dick heads who rip off a culture because they have no idea what it actually stands for and thing it looks cool.
Being a goth now is not what it was, when people ask me if I'm gothic, I tell them no, I'm not one of you.
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03-26-2009, 02:23 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Luxembourg
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Oh, Shut up.
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03-26-2009, 02:26 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jack_the_knife
Oh, Shut up.
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hahahahah.
you have a better idea?
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03-26-2009, 02:59 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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This is discussed far too often for my liking. Goth went down when the media started portraying it as something it isn't and putting stereotypes in peoples' heads. Then little teen bitches decided to be "Hard kaw gawffick b/c they listen to MCR and Marilyn Manson and there like, totally dark". Goth really shouldn't be taken seriously, though. It isn't that important.
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03-26-2009, 03:49 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi
This is discussed far too often for my liking. Goth went down when the media started portraying it as something it isn't and putting stereotypes in peoples' heads. Then little teen bitches decided to be "Hard kaw gawffick b/c they listen to MCR and Marilyn Manson and there like, totally dark". Goth really shouldn't be taken seriously, though. It isn't that important.
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should we even care any more, I mean about what people do, if they want to rip on our culture why even care, we know what we are and what they are and chances are they won't understand so...i guess it doesn't matter...thoughts?
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03-26-2009, 03:50 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by Man In Room 5
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yeh sorry, go easy on me for a bit, I'm new, then if i screw up rip into me 
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03-26-2009, 03:56 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Luxembourg
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Originally Posted by Man In Room 5
This has been done to death.
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Which is precisely why I said shut up. Welcome to the boards.
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03-26-2009, 03:58 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by jack_the_knife
Which is precisely why I said shut up. Welcome to the boards.
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Brilliant I'm going to like it here, real people.
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03-26-2009, 05:02 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,678
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Why can't fags be goth? I know quite a goth fags.
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03-26-2009, 05:04 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by JCC
Why can't fags be goth? I know quite a goth fags.
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just terminology, gay people can be what they like I don't care, "fag" can mean lots of things.
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03-26-2009, 05:06 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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Regardless of whatever meaning you've given to 'fag', unless 'fag' has come to define someone that dislikes gothic rock, they can be goth.
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03-26-2009, 05:08 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JCC
Regardless of whatever meaning you've given to 'fag', unless 'fag' has come to define someone that dislikes gothic rock, they can be goth.
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I really don't care, they do what they like, I said before whatever they do making a fuss about it probably won't do anything.
And I was using "fag" to describe little emo kids who think it's cool to rip on goth culture, couldn't think of another word at the time.
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03-26-2009, 05:10 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,678
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'Emos', perhaps?
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03-26-2009, 05:11 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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doesn't quite give the "umph"
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03-26-2009, 05:12 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,424
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Ff you're going to use it like that then use ' fa gg ot', it sounds nastier.
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03-26-2009, 05:13 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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Don't listen to Sir Canvas Corpsey, he wants to take away my reputation points.
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03-26-2009, 05:13 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by Sir Canvas Corpsey
Ff you're going to use it like that then use ' fa gg ot', it sounds nastier.
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gets bleeped.
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03-26-2009, 05:14 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JCC
Don't listen to Sir Canvas Corpsey, he wants to take away my reputation points.
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It's because I'm so depressed because no one wants to bone me... 50 year old men excluded.
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03-26-2009, 07:37 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Minnesota, USA
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Ok dude now listen. Punk was never popular. Never. I've had this argument with a few people on these boards and let me tell you, punk was enver popular. Sure, in the 80's a few bands got a little mainstream spotlight, but those bands weren't that good anyways. I got into punk 4 alomst 5 years ago, and I did it because I liked the music and the idealology, not be popular. The same thing applies to my friends, they got into goth rock and fahion because they liked it. Goth/punk/whatever is not popular it's just proliferated by mainstream media. People who claim to be goth or punk or raver whatever, usually arent. There are true punks and goths out there and we need to realize that.
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03-26-2009, 07:37 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Earth.
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The only people who bitch about this are people who don't know what goth is anyway.
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03-26-2009, 07:43 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Earth.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormtrooper of Death
Ok dude now listen. Punk was never popular. Never. I've had this argument with a few people on these boards and let me tell you, punk was enver popular. Sure, in the 80's a few bands got a little mainstream spotlight, but those bands weren't that good anyways. I got into punk 4 alomst 5 years ago, and I did it because I liked the music and the idealology, not be popular. The same thing applies to my friends, they got into goth rock and fahion because they liked it. Goth/punk/whatever is not popular it's just proliferated by mainstream media. People who claim to be goth or punk or raver whatever, usually arent. There are true punks and goths out there and we need to realize that.
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Why do we need to realize that?
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03-26-2009, 09:06 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormtrooper of Death
Ok dude now listen. Punk was never popular. Never. I've had this argument with a few people on these boards and let me tell you, punk was enver popular. Sure, in the 80's a few bands got a little mainstream spotlight, but those bands weren't that good anyways. I got into punk 4 alomst 5 years ago, and I did it because I liked the music and the idealology, not be popular. The same thing applies to my friends, they got into goth rock and fahion because they liked it. Goth/punk/whatever is not popular it's just proliferated by mainstream media. People who claim to be goth or punk or raver whatever, usually arent. There are true punks and goths out there and we need to realize that.
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Fuck off, the Sex Pistols were on Top of the Pops with a UK #2 single in the charts and a UK #1 album (even if they did get banned), are a household name and were on more than one major label, the Clash sold over two million copies of London Calling and went platinum in the US, and throughout the first and second wave there were various forays into the mainstream. You can't just say "well yeah there were a few mainstream moments" because that's all there is with any genre of music. Goth was popular too, Siouxsie and the Banshees had more than Top 10 hit.
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03-26-2009, 09:19 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Heaven and Earth
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Quoth: Huh. I thought all of it started out of a simple love for music. At least, that's what folks here keep telling me.
Music and fans of it have to grow, change, and evolve if they are going to survive at all. I don't consider the kids who endeavor to be part of the culture any worse or better than kids in the '80s who did the same thing.
I have to wonder if folks sometimes take subcultures too seriously, though.
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03-26-2009, 09:38 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Osaka, Japan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia
The only people who bitch about this are people who don't know what goth is anyway.
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Quoted for truth.
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