Obsession - Radical Islam's War Against The West

[Xombie]

Has anybody else gotten this DVD in the mail? It has previously been screened on various college campuses as well as CNN and FOX news. A few days ago it was sent with newspapers, mostly in swing states.

http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/

Have any of you seen this? What do you think about it being distributed with supposedly neutral newspapers?

MY OPINION!

This is a huge dump of propaganda. Generally when the public feels that our country is in danger, we sway a little toward the republican party. With the upcoming elections, and with the PERFECT TIMING of this distribution, I can't think of any reason other than to push our votes toward republican.

Discuss.

[HumanePain]

I haven't read your link yet, but before doing so wanted to respond to your comments.

The Republican way for 8 years has been to try and kill our enemies faster than we make them.

But that didn't work. 4,000 soldier deaths later (and HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of non-U.S. deaths), we are now MAKING enemies faster than we can kill them.

The time has come to stop doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

The time has come for diplomacy, and multilateral strategies. The time has come for Obama.

We don't have to fear anything. We are one of the most heavily armed nations, and most heavily armed private populations (I am an NRA member).

Now I don't like the prospect of giving up my guns, and of paying more taxes, both of which will be hallmarks of an Obama Administration, BUT I must remember my priorities: health care for the present and future generations of Americans who don't have health insurance, and survival in a new world order where the United States cannot play policeman of the world, and must be ready to accept the fact (like it or not) that China and India will become superpowers. Wisdom of the past will become tomorrow's folly. We cannot "speak softly and carry a big stick" anymore.

We must appeal to national self interest of other countries, understand their motives and be willing to share the stage and the world. We will last longer that way. I hope.

Now I will read the link.

[Beneath the Shadows]

Originally Posted by HumanePain

The time has come to stop doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

The time has come for diplomacy, and multilateral strategies. The time has come for Obama.

The time has come for the American people to demand that the current two-party system be completely changed. We need more options than just Abbot and Costello. We need Moe, Larry, and Curly. And maybe Shemp.

All joking aside, we need to do away with the two-party system. Having just two parties in control of the vast majority of the political scene it royally screwing this country.

[MegearaErotica]

I agree with Beneath the Shadows, because united we stand, divided we fall... (corny, isn't it)

[Wednesday Friday Addams]

Originally Posted by MegearaErotica

I agree with Beneath the Shadows, because united we stand, divided we fall... (corny, isn't it)

I think your missing the point. More parties would mean better representation and thing but it won't unite you more. Unless your suggesting a one party system. heh.

[MegearaErotica]

Yeah, now that I analyze his post a little more, I see that I misinterpreted him. But I do that alot by not reading it over more than once. (that's what it takes for me to really focus on the concept)

[Catch]

I have an opinion of this: http://viewsonreligion.blogspot.com/

I feel it is appropriate because it uses theology in its premiss.

[Wednesday Friday Addams]

Originally Posted by Catch

I have an opinion of this: http://viewsonreligion.blogspot.com/

I feel it is appropriate because it uses theology in its premiss.

Yeah she uses such great sources.

Why am I not surprised what you link now?


Funny I read some things she wrote..had some interesting idea's and even more interesting sources.



Works Cited
Biblical Proof on Why Evelution [sic] is a Total Fake. 25 Feb. 2002. http://w.ww.expage.com/biblicalproof.
I made the link non clickable now because my WOT says its dangerous for security. Its some spam not even a real link..Quite funny.

That's right even spelt evolution incorrectly.

[CptSternn]

Wow, me and BTS actually agree fully on something. Muist be a sign of the apocolypse!

Not only should there be more than two parties, they should do like Ireland/UK and have more than one candidate from each party run. I mean, why is it just one candidate from the party who runs? They should let all the candidates who were in the primaries run as long as they want. Clinton, Huckabee, all of those persons should be allowed to take it to the end and see who takes it all.

[Joker_in_the_Pack]

Stern and BTS are right, fuck the two party system.

Also, FUCK ELECTORAL COLLEGES. Because of them I don't even vote, there's no fucking point.
HumanePaine, for one thing, people who hate paying taxes are short sighted. Taxes fucking pay for everything, I believe you addressed this, but I still felt compelled to say it. The reasons democrats are against guns is because there is a huge population of STUPID FUCKING PEOPLE in this country.

As for the Obama thing, Humane, you're an adult, I expect more from you.

You sound like a fucking Obama propaganda bot sometimes.
Politicians always have been and always will be self serving liars. Obama can say all the fuck he wants right now (his stances change, check it out) but it's no indication of what he'll do in office. The only reason he's a good choice is because it's a choice between the frying pan and the fire, at least the frying pan has comfortable seating. He's another two bit empty promise shmuck, and the fact you seem to aggrandize his image and preach his word with such naïve, school boy zeal makes you come off as some gullible fan boy. Wake up.

[HumanePain]

Ideally I would rather vote for Ralph Nader (American Independent), but it is important that the Republicans not be reelected because of a split Democrat vote, so yeah, Obama is the lesser of two weasels.

[HumanePain]

Here is the main reason I am voting for Obama, even the Wall Street Journal says his health plan is superior to McCain's health care proposal:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1221...gn2008_mostpop

[Catch]

Originally Posted by CptSternn

Wow, me and BTS actually agree fully on something. Muist be a sign of the apocolypse!

Not only should there be more than two parties, they should do like Ireland/UK and have more than one candidate from each party run. I mean, why is it just one candidate from the party who runs? They should let all the candidates who were in the primaries run as long as they want. Clinton, Huckabee, all of those persons should be allowed to take it to the end and see who takes it all.

If you ever read Nostradamus' Phrophecies, there is a passage in the last part of the book that sounds a lot like Obama becoming President. However, it refers to the Congress so it could be either candidate.

At this time the third anti-christ is supposed to around. However, this person is not the anti-christ, only a sign that they around and plotting. They have some kind-of tie in between France, the Middle-East and Asia. That is why everyone thought Sadam is the anti-christ; however, I think this might be incorrect. I wonder if the weapons of mass destruction ended up in Korea, because they are in association. I don't think the master mind has been revealed.

It doesn't say if the elections, actually affect the outcome of anything, because the third world war is when the prophecies end.

Humane Pain: I find it interesting that Obama wants to "share" now.

[Joker_in_the_Pack]

Originally Posted by HumanePain

Ideally I would rather vote for Ralph Nader (American Independent), but it is important that the Republicans not be reelected because of a split Democrat vote, so yeah, Obama is the lesser of two weasels.

I understand the lesser of two evils, but in my (relatively) short life, I've grow so sick and tired of the lesser of two evils. This election, I refuse to vote. So when I tell people that our president (doesn't matter who wins) is a complete idiot, they won't have the "do you think the person you voted for is better?" retort.



Catch... go away.

[Catch]

They might not be able to stop the anti-christ.

(I find extreme and radical religious views completely appropriate when talking about terrorist. )

[CptSternn]

Originally Posted by Catch

If you ever read Nostradamus' Phrophecies, there is a passage in the last part of the book that sounds a lot like Obama becoming President. However, it refers to the Congress so it could be either candidate.

At this time the third anti-christ is supposed to around.

It has already been proved that at least some of the 'prophecies' were not written by Nostradamus, and were concocted by others who owned the original copies of his writings many years later.

Also note, his visions are very vague and can be interpreted as pretty much whatever you want them to mean, much like a gypsy palm reader or fortune cookie.

He is not a Christian icon, so his thoughts and views on the anti-christ don't excite me in the least. Turning to a fortune cookie to get information on Biblical matters is like asking your postman for financial advise.

[Fatbaby]

There needs to be many changes. We need more than three parties. We need candidates that believe in what they say getting elected once they are in the white house. Many people are apathetic to the election system and never bother to vote and that is a great problem.

[JCC]

What we need is no politicians.

[viscus]

About multi-party systems, I remember a discussion that took place in a political science course where we talked about what would happen if we introduced proportional representation into the US Congress. What we found was that the smaller parties (and we came up with Green, Socialist, La Raza, and Black Liberation on the left; Chrisitan Coalition, Liberitarian, and some kind of isolationist party on the right) all taking 5-10% chunks out of the vote of the two main parties.

So what becomes the most obvious ruling coalition? A "moderate" one between the Democratic and Republican parties. So poicywise it probably wouldn't change much, but it would increase voter turnout by quite a lot, so it would still be a very good thing.

And Catch, Nostradamus never said anything of value, so don't quote him.

[Joker_in_the_Pack]

Originally Posted by JCC

What we need is no politicians.

Hear hear!

Originally Posted by Catch

They might not be able to stop the anti-christ.

(I find extreme and radical religious views completely appropriate when talking about terrorist. )

And I find you to be a complete idiot.

[viscus]

Originally Posted by Joker_in_the_Pack

Hear hear!

Could you guys find me a society without politics? Because I'd be very interested in seeing how that would work.

[PortraitOfSanity]

Why do you find him to be a complete idiot Joker? Radical religious views ARE completely relevant to terrorism. It's important to stress that they ARE radical views, and not the views of the religion as a whole so that you don't end up like articles like the one the OP posted. That's the whole problem, Islam is portrayed as this nasty, bloodthirsty religion, when really that's just one interpretation by a group of people already consumed by hatred.

[Joker_in_the_Pack]

Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity

Why do you find him to be a complete idiot Joker? Radical religious views ARE completely relevant to terrorism. It's important to stress that they ARE radical views, and not the views of the religion as a whole so that you don't end up like articles like the one the OP posted. That's the whole problem, Islam is portrayed as this nasty, bloodthirsty religion, when really that's just one interpretation by a group of people already consumed by hatred.

For one thing, catch is a woman. For another, if you have to ask why Catch is a complete idiot, you haven't been on here a lot. For a third, if you truly wanted to show how the religion isn't the source of the hatred you would post things showing the calmer side of the particular religion, not some psychotic fool who's quoted to no end.

[Mir]

Originally Posted by viscus

Could you guys find me a society without politics?

A society without politics? My public lice. It is total anarchy, I tell you.

[Catch]

Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity

Why do you find him to be a complete idiot Joker? Radical religious views ARE completely relevant to terrorism. It's important to stress that they ARE radical views, and not the views of the religion as a whole so that you don't end up like articles like the one the OP posted. That's the whole problem, Islam is portrayed as this nasty, bloodthirsty religion, when really that's just one interpretation by a group of people already consumed by hatred.

I agree. Most terrorists seem to think the reason the exist is because of supernatural reasons and they kill because they seem to think their religion tells them to do it. Therefore, speaking directly about religion is an appropriate conversation when discussing terrorists.

We want to use our culture to understand their culture even though that is ineffective.