Cliches in music!

[Duane]

Talk about all cliches in music, like heavily distorted guitars, whiney vocals, songs... well, you got the point.

[PortraitOfSanity]

Hi






















This thread fails.

[Duane]

Ah, one of my dedicated fans speaks.

[PortraitOfSanity]

If you're going to start a thread, you're really obliged to start some meaningful conversation. You can't just say "talk about this guys!".

[Duane]

I know, I'm just very fucking lazy, there's no justification for it, either.

[Minyaliel]

Clichées? Shave and a haircut. -That's- cliché.

[Joker_in_the_Pack]

Those aren't cliches, those are characteristics.

[Godslayer Jillian]

Cliché:
Singing about broken relationships.

Those songs suck! What's the point of having half of the mainstream music (at least) be of the same shitty theme?!

It's like mainstream artists instead of saying "what can we create?" just say "how else can we say that we're hurt?"
Fuck templates!

[Minyaliel]

Originally Posted by Joker_in_the_Pack

Those aren't cliches, those are characteristics.

I don't get what you mean. I guess I'm thinking too much like a musician when reading the word "characteristics". Care to explain? I'm genuinely confused.

By the way - I still do think Shave and a Haircut is the most cliché thing a musician could ever put onto the end of a performance.

"Cliché - A phrase or expression that is overused and has thus lost its original impact; a trite saying; a platitude; Anything other than a phrase or expression (such as a plot device, etc) that is similarly overused"
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cliché

I think it fits the bill.

[Splintered]

Listen to the song Metal By Numbers by Brian Posehn. It lists everything I get annoyed with by metal.

[PortraitOfSanity]

Originally Posted by Splintered

Listen to the song Metal By Numbers by Brian Posehn. It lists everything I get annoyed with by metal.

nu-metal =/= metal

nu-metal = crap

[Splintered]

Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity

nu-metal =/= metal

nu-metal = crap

Nooo, really?

If you're talking about the song, it also makes reference to metalcore, black metal, and a lot of a hardcore too.

[PortraitOfSanity]

Amazing, I didn't find a single reference to black metal in the whole song.

I counted 1 reference to death metal (Cookie monster vocals or yell like a wookie)

and 1 line that repeats that references Maiden and Metallica.

Overall though, it's about the watered down crap.

[Crying_Crimson_Tears]

Music videos that involve the artists boyfriend or girlfriend.

[Calypso]

Well, we all know the "I'm such a hott slut," followed by the "respect me for who I am," which goes hand in hand with, "I'm a gang banging hustler and just because I got money don't mean I'm gonna change my ways" cliché.

[Splintered]

Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity

Amazing, I didn't find a single reference to black metal in the whole song.

I counted 1 reference to death metal (Cookie monster vocals or yell like a wookie)

and 1 line that repeats that references Maiden and Metallica.

Overall though, it's about the watered down crap.

IIRC, the gang vocal part is a reference to a lot of black metal bands that suddenly have two or more singers (Dimmu Borgir's really bad for this. Oh, let's see if we can get everybody singing!). That, and the reference to the "Singer wants to fight", speaks "Hardcore" (coughhatebreed) to me.

[Crying_Crimson_Tears]

Love songs.

Just love songs in general.

The songs that just pour the heart out to the one the artist loves.

[PortraitOfSanity]

Originally Posted by Splintered

IIRC, the gang vocal part is a reference to a lot of black metal bands that suddenly have two or more singers (Dimmu Borgir's really bad for this. Oh, let's see if we can get everybody singing!). That, and the reference to the "Singer wants to fight", speaks "Hardcore" (coughhatebreed) to me.

I wouldn't really call 2 singers a gang vocal, and besides, Dimmu Borgir is a really , really bad example to use to generalize black metal. There's hardly any black metal bands with more than one singer.

[Splintered]

I know they're a shitty example, but they do use a lot of gang vocals, IMHO. I could have sworn that a lot of them had background vocals, especially "church-choir" type stuff. Unless I'm thinking of (subgenre a) black metal and they're talking about (subgenre a) black metal.

[James Most Bizzare]

The "soft chorus/heavy verse" song format

[JCC]

Originally Posted by James Most Bizzare

The "soft chorus/heavy verse" song format

Or for extra non-conformism, soft verse/heavy chorus!

The mix for every Grunge song ever.

[PortraitOfSanity]

Originally Posted by Splintered

I know they're a shitty example, but they do use a lot of gang vocals, IMHO. I could have sworn that a lot of them had background vocals, especially "church-choir" type stuff. Unless I'm thinking of (subgenre a) black metal and they're talking about (subgenre a) black metal.

I think you misinterpreted it and they're not talking about black metal at all...

Even symphonic and melodic subgenres don't use anything that could remotely be called gang vocals.

[James Most Bizzare]

Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity

I think you misinterpreted it and they're not talking about black metal at all...

Even symphonic and melodic subgenres don't use anything that could remotely be called gang vocals.

I would think gang vocals would be something involving Ice-T and/or DMX.

[Draconysius]

How about verse-chorus-verse-chorus?

[Duane]

How about... bands doing covers before writing "original" music?