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Old 12-03-2012, 09:49 PM   #51
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Mantra may be good to check out, I have not read it but I've heard good things. From what I understand the main character is not exactly transgendered but essentially an emortal male soul is placed in an adult whenever he dies and ends up in a woman.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:45 PM   #52
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Hey Saya, you seem to be pretty knowledgeable of comic books. Do you know of any comics with a transgender main character. I would kind of love that right now. Need something that will cheer me up. Or, i should just get a cat... yeah... kitty
Sadly, there's slim pickings for trans* characters.

Ystin in Demon Knights is trans*! Last issue he said he's both male and female, but Cornell says he's not going to clarify what was meant by that (I'm personally going with that Ystin means his gender is male, his body biologically female.), which I think is actually good. It's Ystin's business, and people should just take his word for it when he demands they use male pronouns. I was just planning to collect the series in trade but apparently he's having a romance now with the Wonder Woman stand in Amazon.

Gail Simone announced she's going to be writing a trans woman soon, I'll keep you updated as that develops.

There is also an out of print four issue miniseries called Deathwish starring a transwoman, haven't read it yet so I can't say its good, BUT apprently it was good ol' J.H.Williams III who did the art, he's the current writer/artist of Batwoman. I'm totally willing to find it and give you the word.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:01 PM   #53
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Oh, one thing to watch out for though is that the writer for Demon Knights is changing and I don't know what the new writer will be like. It seems with issue #14 though its confirmed that Ystin is transgender. Cornell even called him transgender on twitter. WORD OF GOD.

So hopefully the new person won't screw that up D:
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:43 PM   #55
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Comic Sans Shitstorm.

Hahaha. I get it!
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:42 PM   #56
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Gail Simone got fired from Batgirl D: Which is super super super weird, considering Batgirl is one of the best selling of the New 52.

I wonder if it was because she snuck Renee Montoya in the background or because she said she was going to write a trans character :/ Although I also suspect one of the dudebros at DC said they wanted to write Batgirl. MORRISON IF YOU DO THE SAME TO GAIL AS YOU DID TO RUCKA.....
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:52 PM   #57
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Dammit.

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And as for the transgender character she was creating for the book, “I think it’s very unlikely that thread will be followed up on in Batgirl, sadly. The worst thing about this is all the beautiful things we had set up will likely not happen, as new editors and creative teams understandably want to forge their own trail.”
http://www.themarysue.com/gail-simone-off-batgirl/

I hope that isn't the reason they took her off. I'll drop all DC comics I read if they did.

Apparently someone on twitter asked her if she was fired because she refused to put a woman in the refrigerator. Simone replied "funny you should say that." I think that would be a slap in the face if they kicked her off just so they could kill a female character to traumatize Barbara some more.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:32 PM   #58
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I was thinking the same thing. But, evidentally the series has been pretty violent so far. So i assumed she refused something downright deplorable. Which if it's the case then i guess we'll find out when the editor finds someone that will listen to his ridiculous demands.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:38 PM   #59
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I stayed away because I was under the impression the series was very humourless and not very Gail Simone-y. I mean, Secret Six was pretty violent but it was also pretty funny at times, and this was the lady who tried to get a Wonder Woman/Weird Al crossover (he agreed to it, but I think she was pulled off the book and put on another one before it could happen). I'm under the impression she already made a ton of concessions, so I really dread to see what they really wanted her to do.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:38 PM   #60
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A lot of this reminds me of the reason why I backed away from comics in the 90's just after Superman's death and resurrection. Suddenly, everyone wanted to do something epic, whether it was Hal Jordan going apeshit and wiping out the GLC, or Cable's clone Stryfe orchestrating the dumbest family reunion I've ever seen (See: X-Cutioner's Song, about 14 crossover issues between four of the X-Men titles at the time, not to mention a stand alone issue of Stryfe's journal). Sure, they're going to bring in some fans, but at the same time they're going to turn away a lot of long time readers.

Plus there was the departure of Jim Lee, Rob Liefield, Todd McFarlane and a host of others from DC and Marvel who went on to create Image Comics. I wouldn't be surprised if something similar to this happens again or some of the writers and illustrators simply jump ship like Stan Lee did.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:22 PM   #61
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A lot of this reminds me of the reason why I backed away from comics in the 90's just after Superman's death and resurrection. Suddenly, everyone wanted to do something epic, whether it was Hal Jordan going apeshit and wiping out the GLC, or Cable's clone Stryfe orchestrating the dumbest family reunion I've ever seen (See: X-Cutioner's Song, about 14 crossover issues between four of the X-Men titles at the time, not to mention a stand alone issue of Stryfe's journal). Sure, they're going to bring in some fans, but at the same time they're going to turn away a lot of long time readers.

Plus there was the departure of Jim Lee, Rob Liefield, Todd McFarlane and a host of others from DC and Marvel who went on to create Image Comics. I wouldn't be surprised if something similar to this happens again or some of the writers and illustrators simply jump ship like Stan Lee did.
Part of me wants to blame Nolan. The doom and gloom and angst suits Batman fine, but since the Batman film was a wild success and Batbooks sell so well (except Batwing, RACISTS), they assume that formula will work for everyone. Superman is too boring happy and married! HE MUST SUFFER. Wonder Woman IS THE SPAWN OF MAN HATING BABY KILLING RAPIST FEMINISTS. Starfire is too loving and whimsical! WE MUST MAKE HER BORED AND EMOTIONALLY DEAD. I kinda don't mind what Williams did to Bette just because he said he did it so badly on purpose so that no one would ever want to put Bette through traumatic shit again.

Jim Lee and Rob Liefield at least still worked at DC, Lee gets a lot of sway from what I can tell (most of the character redesigns seem to be largely derivitave from what he planned. The Supergirl costume used now for example is a lot like what Lee designed and not at all like what Asrar designed. Now if only they got him to do the new Powergirl, yucky.). Liefeld recently threw a tantrum as he quit (I don't disagree with why he quit, just disagree with who he lashed out at on twitter).

Point remains though that while I think the New 52 reboot and the Avengers film got people interested in comics again, I think independent comics seem to be getting a huge benefit from it. DC is slipping to pre-reboot sales records and Marvel I think is starting to smarten up about gender representation (still no trans super hero, sadly), but then you get comics that don't deal with editor interference that you can tell are just that much more creative. I still find it really cool that Liefeld let Glory be rebooted the way that she has been, I mean she's gone from stereotypical comic book cheesecake to being build like a tank. I think Rucka is a lot happier on Stumptown. Gail Simone raised a lot of money through kickstarter to get an original series on the go, and I can't wait. Saga is just so WEIRD but original and it seems to be doing very well.

Seems like Image and Vertigo are taking over my pull list, and even some Marvel like Red She Hulk and Deadpool have booted out DC titles I used to love you, DC. You used to be cool.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:19 AM   #62
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I think DC forgets sometimes that variety is the spice of life. For instance what I used to love about the X-Men titles was how each team was fighting for equality (not to mention, one of the few series with multiple racial minorities with significant roles) and had their own way of doing it. X-Factor through the government, X-Men by leading through example and X-Force were the hot headed rookies that made their elder counterparts nervous.

Then came Joe Quesada who killed off all the titles but Uncanny X-Men and X-Men when he was senior editor at Marvel, so fuck that guy. Thanks to him and what I mentioned earlier I went to the indie titles and have since strictly read Heavy Metal Magazine on occasion. It wouldn't take something significant for me to get back to the titles I used to love, but between the movies that are hit or miss and the shakeups like New 52 it's highly doubtful.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:02 AM   #63
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I think DC forgets sometimes that variety is the spice of life. For instance what I used to love about the X-Men titles was how each team was fighting for equality (not to mention, one of the few series with multiple racial minorities with significant roles) and had their own way of doing it. X-Factor through the government, X-Men by leading through example and X-Force were the hot headed rookies that made their elder counterparts nervous.

Then came Joe Quesada who killed off all the titles but Uncanny X-Men and X-Men when he was senior editor at Marvel, so fuck that guy. Thanks to him and what I mentioned earlier I went to the indie titles and have since strictly read Heavy Metal Magazine on occasion. It wouldn't take something significant for me to get back to the titles I used to love, but between the movies that are hit or miss and the shakeups like New 52 it's highly doubtful.
My sympathies, I used to be a big X-Men fan. I think Nostalgia Chick said it best that its more like being a recovering X-Men fan, I deep down still love it and probably always will, but I just don't trust them not to hurt me again.

The movies killed me. My two most favourite X-Men are Rogue and Gambit and I hate they weren't together and instead she was with the dickweed who played Jake in the Animorphs tv show.

On the other hand. Deadpool is pretty awesome. Its an awesome break from all the SERIOUS DEATH ANGST GORE shit.
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:00 PM   #64
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After firing Gail Simone by email, it was announced that the new writer of Batgirl is...Gail Simone.

Either they learned you can't mess with a huge fanbase, or poor Gail submitted to whatever horrible things they want her to do to poor Barbara/supporting caste.
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:30 PM   #65
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Guys, it happened, I'm pissy with Batwoman. I wanted her and Wonder Woman to team up because they're both awesome and coming together was meant to be magical.

Basically, Wonder Woman agrees to kill a very wounded Pegasus who wanted a mercy killing in return for information. She does so, and Batwoman brings out the whole Bat technical pacifism thing and Wonder Woman has a monologue about how Batwoman is so much braver than she is.

Its like the awful Superman/Batman conflicts/team ups where Superman is dragged down to make Batman look so much better than him, I guess because the Batfamily doesn't have superpowers they feel they need to compensate. But its absolutely ridiculous, nobody thinks the Bats are worse than the superpowered. They're the most popular DC franchise! Everyone acknowledges they are awesome! They don't need Superman or Wonder Woman to look bad to make them look good. GAH.

I basically wanted a good World's Finest team up or like when Supergirl and Stephanie Brown Batgirl were BFFs, where they just play off each other's awesomeness, but no, that is not what we get.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:15 PM   #66
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You guys, it happened. I went to the comic book store yesterday and I bought Marvel and Vertigo, and no DC.

I'll probably catch up with Batwoman, Supergirl and Wonder Woman later, but I'm still pissy with BW and WW, and SG is in a crossover event with Superman and Superboy which I don't read. When the New 52 launched, I had 11 books on my pull list. Now its down to those three.

I think Marvel is trying now to get female representation back in their books. Captain Marvel I found was too pro-military for me to enjoy, but I like Red She Hulk, and you know what always bothered me about the green She Hulk? That she's hot and not monstrous like Hulk. But Red She Hulk while usually hot, does have a monstrous form. Its the first time I've ever seen a superheroine allowed to be flat out ugly. I mean Glory is built like a brickhouse, but I don't think she's ugly, and she's with Image.

I'm also super interested in the all female X-Men team book that's coming out, and The Fearless Defenders. Both led by WoC! At the same time! DC has no comics led by WoC since the cancellation of Voodoo. And that was terrible.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:37 PM   #67
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So, I'm going to stop buying DC. I never thought I'd see the day where I'd start reading Marvel again and give up DC completely.

So, recently Wonder Woman got her ass slapped in her own comics for shits and giggles and she didn't get to defend herself. That made me feel gross. In Earth 2, Lois Lane gets hugged to death by her baby, never mind that Superman never hugged his parents to death so I have no clue why Lois Lane deserves to die, but hey they seem to really hate her right now and Superman isn't long dying himself. On Earth 1, Lois Lane is behind a desk (never mind that her real, true love, before she got involved with Clark, has always been hard hitting journalism) and totally sidelined so Superman and Wonder Woman can date and Wonder Woman is being promoted as Superman's "sexy new sidekick."

Now, in the tie in comic with the upcoming Injustice game, Superman, while in a crazed frenzy, beats a pregnant Lois Lane to death, and while mourning over her dead body, Wonder Woman uses this opportunity to put the moves on him and encourages him to kill.

Its not like Wonder Woman from her creation was meant as a feminist icon and means so much to female fans and that anyone but misogynistic mouth breathers who live in their mother's basements read comics, oh no.

At least Marvel is trying. I don't like Captain Marvel, but I appreciate what they're trying to do with it. I like Red She Hulk and I'll be picking up the all female X-Men book by Brian Wood when it comes out and I'm also going to try out Fearless Defenders. And of course there's Dark Horse, IDW and Vertigo, who are even better. So why stay?
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:03 PM   #68
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Old 10-05-2013, 09:31 PM   #71
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MoC! Vertigo just released an anthology one shot (I guess its a Halloween tradition? Last year's theme was ghosts, this year it was witches) and one short story was about a transwoman. Bless, the story even had a trigger warning in the beginning (and yeah, tw, talks about sexual assault) but it was really good.

ETA: You guys need to read comics more so I can talk about it more. Batwoman's creative team walked after editors wouldn't allow her to marry her girlfriend, and Marvel now has a mostly black Avengers (Mighty Avengers) which is pretty good thus far except it got Doc Oc Spidey and Greg Land is the artist. And once you realize he traces from celebrities and porn, you can't unsee it. But the actual writing is pretty good.
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