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08-05-2010, 08:48 AM
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#151
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But Caucasoid race is light skin people so Im guessing that's why they refer to it as white folks.
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08-05-2010, 09:04 AM
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#152
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Again, in the two pages since my last post you've proven my point. You've talked about dictionaries and slang and climate and what is or isn't racist. But you haven't demonstrated in any constructive way that there's a difference between being an Black Goth or a black skydiver or a black dermatologist or a black Republican (heh!). There is not a cohesive subject here, and that's why there isn't a discussion of it in these 6 pages.
The challenges of being black are significant and culturally broad (depending on geography) but adding Goth to it only adds the challenges any other Goth has. Do I look good wearing this? Am I listening to acceptable music? Will others accept me for who I am?
Get over it.
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08-05-2010, 09:10 AM
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#153
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Texas/ Florida
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I check the "Other" box or write it in. I hate "white" or "Caucasian". I find the whole skin color thing stupid and limiting.
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08-05-2010, 09:25 AM
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#154
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They only ask those questions for a survey , dose it really matter what color skin you are because it's just skin.
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08-05-2010, 09:30 AM
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#155
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Ben, I really don't know why were still talking about this thread anymore but just to answer your question, no it dose not make any difference if your a black goth or a black skydiver the point is I was just trying to say that I have never seen a black goth and that there are not many of them in the goth community.
And I am over it.
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08-05-2010, 09:34 AM
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#156
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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This thread is officially adjourn!
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08-05-2010, 11:38 AM
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#157
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OnyxBat
I know but people just found it as a good lable for white folks, if you fill out and application it will ask white/Caucasian.
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Amazingly, this is a good point.
Ophie, I will concede that I didn't know the technical definition of "caucasian". But, much like Onyx [and since I rarely think about the word beyond filling out applications], I would have to say that in the minds of 99.9% of Americans, the word is synonymous with "white person".
I don't know how it came to mean that either, but ask anyone on the street, and I'm pretty sure they'll tell you it means "white person".
I could, of course, be wrong.
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08-05-2010, 01:07 PM
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#158
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Earth.
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You're right, Tam.
It was stupid of me to think you were capable of doing anything except the same thing you see everyone else doing, even when you know it to be incorrect.
My b.
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08-05-2010, 01:22 PM
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#159
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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*sigh*
Ophie, sometimes I think you argue just for the sake of arguing. -_-;;
But you're right; I should make flyers, stand on street corners with a protest sign, and indeed make it my mission in life to tell everyone that ever calls me Caucasian, or hands me a form with it written on it, that they are using the word incorrectly. I should make such a big deal of this, that damn it, I don't have to ever see or hear that word referenced to a white person ever ever again.
Because that is a good use of my time and resources.
/sarcasm
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08-05-2010, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tam Li Hua
*sigh*
Ophie, sometimes I think you argue just for the sake of arguing. -_-;;
But you're right; I should make flyers, stand on street corners with a protest sign, and indeed make it my mission in life to tell everyone that ever calls me Caucasian, or hands me a form with it written on it, that they are using the word incorrectly. I should make such a big deal of this, that damn it, I don't have to ever see or hear that word referenced to a white person ever ever again.
Because that is a good use of my time and resources.
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No, you fool.
Is it so hard to react reasonably? Here's an example to get you started:
"Huh. That's interesting, I didn't know that."
But no, you have to be an idiot about it, because well, you're a fucking idiot.
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08-05-2010, 01:49 PM
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#161
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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I'm not going to have an internet fight over the word "caucasian". That's just silly.
If I'm an idiot for not caring that "caucasian" is used to refer to white folks in the U. S. even though that's not its technical meaning or where it originally came from, then fine; I'm an idiot, a fool, and whatever else you want to call me.
Can we move on to something a little less ridiculous and mind-numbing now?
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08-05-2010, 01:52 PM
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#162
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So arguing is silly, but instead of reacting normally like I suggested, you chose to argue.
Huh.
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08-05-2010, 01:56 PM
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Arguing over this particular topic is silly, yes.
Some things just aren't worth the energy, Ophie. And it's obvious you're either very very pissed about something else.
Anyways, time for the work day to end. Hope you work out whatever it is you're actually pissed about.
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08-05-2010, 02:15 PM
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#164
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Li Hua
Arguing over this particular topic is silly, yes.
Some things just aren't worth the energy, Ophie. And it's obvious you're either very very pissed about something else.
Anyways, time for the work day to end. Hope you work out whatever it is you're actually pissed about.
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And still. It can't ever be that you have a problem. Despite me being calm and 100% rational, it has to be me with the problem, because your psyche can't handle the thought that there's yet another thing wrong with you.
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08-05-2010, 02:16 PM
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#165
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Thou Viking capital Denmark.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OnyxBat
They only ask those questions for a survey , dose it really matter what color skin you are because it's just skin.
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Yet you were the one who wanted to treat "black goths" differently based on their skin tone.
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08-05-2010, 02:35 PM
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#166
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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I did not say anything about treating them differently, if so please show me that quote. and I never met one so how can I treat them differently if I don't know one.
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08-05-2010, 02:37 PM
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#167
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Thou Viking capital Denmark.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OnyxBat
I did not say anything about treating them differently, if so please show me that quote. and I never met one so how can I treat them differently if I don't know one.
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Ask and ye shall recieve...
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Originally Posted by OnyxBat
I would just like some opinons on how you would approach one. And how would there own race see them. *this is not a racist thread*
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And no matter how many times you say that it's not racist, it comes across as what it is; racist.
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08-05-2010, 02:40 PM
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#168
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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You are so confuse, How is that treating them differently? It's like a new goth approching another goth for the first time that is how I ment it. And yes it did come off as racist but I (yes me!) is not a racist.
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08-05-2010, 02:42 PM
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#169
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And I said I am not racist not the comment that I wrote before. So I was defending my self and not the comment.
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08-05-2010, 02:49 PM
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#170
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OnyxBat
I know but people just found it as a good lable for white folks, if you fill out and application it will ask white/Caucasian.
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Exactly; it says white AND Caucasian.
We Mexicans have to put white and Hispanic.
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real classy
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08-05-2010, 02:51 PM
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#171
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Thou Viking capital Denmark.
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OnyxBat - Your comment clearly stated that you wanted advice on how to approach black goths as opposed to white goths, effectively suggesting different treatment based on the tone of a person's skin.
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08-05-2010, 02:56 PM
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#172
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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I did not ask it to help me I asked it to hear any encounters with a black goth.
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08-05-2010, 02:57 PM
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#173
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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Hey I NOW officialy adjourn this thread?
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08-05-2010, 02:57 PM
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#174
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Thou Viking capital Denmark.
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You asked for oppions on how to approach "them."
Effectively making it a fucking racist statement.
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08-05-2010, 03:02 PM
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#175
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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No need for the foul words ( sorry I know I am pissing you off, tend to do that a lot but not intenionaly)
yes because I have heard how badly they are treated by other ignorant goths so I wanted to know if it was true and I was just bored at the moment to just hear some stories .
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