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Old 01-12-2008, 12:56 PM   #26
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Rachel's Challenge pisses me off.
They martyr her, while at the same time demonizing the shooters. Instead of making the ENTIRE message of the program about peace and love, they like to emphasize how the shooters ruined it all. For someone who supposedly was friends with everyone who needed it, I find it strange that Rachel never reached out to Harris and Klebold (who were apparently really messed up and teased constantly)

Rachel Scott SUPPOSEDLY said yes she believed in God, but there are no witnesses to that. I still think it was made up to further martyr her.

I do agree with the fact they martyr her, but I'm a firm believer in the the message of the whole challenge. People need to be nicer to one another. And no one knows if she did or didn't try to talk to the boys--if you're as unsound as they were, I'd doubt you'd care whether or not she had tried to reach out or not. But that's just my opinion--some people are just very hard-headed, to the point they won't let anyone in. For all we know she could've tried talking to them, and they could've kept blowing her off. But we'll never know, I suppose.

I personally didn't join the challenge for the sake of Rachel, I joined it because I believe in it. If it's offensive, don't view it as Rachel's Challenge so to speak--view it as something you should be doing, for the sake of the people who may be driven to the edge like those two boys were. You might prevent something bad from happening--you'll never know unless you try it.
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:06 PM   #27
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Nice reply, highness. :^)
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Old 01-12-2008, 02:57 PM   #28
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Rachel's Challenge came to my high school and I flipped a shit. The thing was ridiculous, and although we, as a public high school, were treated to a watered-down, somewhat secularized version of what's essentially a Christian presentation, her pastor father couldn't quite manage to remove mention of bizarre evangelical mysticism from the production. It begins innocently enough, asserting that we should all follow the basic ethical principles delineated by Rachel Scott in some essay which she probably bullshitted in 15 minutes, but proceeds from there to interpret vague doodles she made in her journal as premonitions of the Columbine Attacks (e.g: An eye crying thirteen tears... THIRTEEN PEOPLE DIED!) and relay the account of a strange man who called the Scott house alledging that he'd seen Rachel in his dreams. The whole thing degenerated into total bullshit.

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Instead of making the ENTIRE message of the program about peace and love, they like to emphasize how the shooters ruined it all. For someone who supposedly was friends with everyone who needed it, I find it strange that Rachel never reached out to Harris and Klebold (who were apparently really messed up and teased constantly)
I don't remember Rachel's Challenge excessively vilifying the shooters or even really mentioning them at all, but Columbine really was their fault, not anyone else's. People who persistently bully others are assholes, but that doesn't justify the victims of their mockery becoming homicidal, not at all.

If I recall, the 'Girl Who Said Yes' was never purported to be Rachel, but some girl named 'Cassie Bernall' or something, although the story is totally unsubstantiated.
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Old 01-12-2008, 03:22 PM   #29
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Sounds weird. I don't pretend to know that much about it. If they're using what on the surface appears to be a legitimate response to a tragedy as a trojan horse for promoting scripture that's pretty low, and would be the kind of thing that does not do any favors for Christianity.
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Old 01-12-2008, 03:52 PM   #30
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Wow. With those comments you could go to the school and complain that with that assembly they implanted in the students minds that if they make fun of you, you'll kill them. I'd totally make the school board pay for that. Yay SoCal. We don't give a shit about our students reactions to others! I'm in 11th and the only time anyone has ever said play nice with others was in kindergarden. By first grade they don't care what happens to you. I've a good story about relentless physical bullying that I reported and then they asked about it 2 months later and did nothing about it in 8th grade. And in elementary I had everything happen but rocks thrown at me. O.o your school system seems naive yet somehow wanting to help. and failing so miserably.

May assholes be castrated so their stupidness is not passed on through the generations. That is the only comment I can make on asshole students.
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Old 01-12-2008, 04:46 PM   #31
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