Vegan / Vegetarian Goths

[Ishkabibble]

Originally Posted by PersephoneX

I’ve heard that people that stop eating meat begin to smell different. Not like stinky, but different. Is it true?

In my case, only when there's meat or chicken cooking somewhere it seems to have a horrific smell.

[Ishkabibble]

Originally Posted by dark_dragon_of_ice

What if the animal is being used to test drugs or any new medical procedure that could save millions of animals (including humans) lives?
And yes medicine is a product

I suppose that does have a profitable outcome. But just using the animals to test cosmetics on, is simply cruel.

[Saddiction]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18574603/?GT1=9951

[Ishkabibble]

Originally Posted by Saddiction

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18574603/?GT1=9951

Wow. That couple probably didn't know much about baby nuturing. Feeding a baby off from a vegan diet is probably the worst decision they made. Poor little lad.

I wonder if they talked to a pediatrician about the baby's diet...I suppose not.

[Mir]

I was not being a preachy carnivore.

[heretoday_gonetomorrow]

I've only been a vegetarian for a year now, but the transition was easy, never ate much meat in the first place. I love it, I feel more energetic when I eat veggies. I hardly ever cook, but my mom has been buying me packages of tofu lately. I'll cook that to eat with whatever my mom makes for supper, it's funny to see the looks on my family's faces when I get them to try some.

[Vako]

I love tofu. It's a good substitute of meat. It's especially good with spices.

[Ishkabibble]

Originally Posted by Vako

I love tofu. It's a good substitute of meat. It's especially good with spices.

Absolutely. I love that stuff, you can mix it with almost any spice and it'll taste pretty good.

[eternalcrimson]

The thing about tofu is the way most Americans prepare it is horrible. In general it’s over prepared and I think Tofu tastes best when it is simple.

I love it Korean style in a boiling hot pot with red pepper spices. I also love Mabo Tofu (There is a vegetarian version of this dish that’s really good.).

And my favorite, the way tofu should be eaten Straight out of the refrigerator with green onions and soy sauce. It’s authentic and good.

[ArtificialOne]

I think generally cutting down on what you eat gives you tons more energy. Most people don't know that consuming large amounts of food especially soda basically puts you into a diabetic coma because your body can't process all that sugar so fast. I've cut my eating by about 2/3's and am amazed how much better I feel. I was a major junk food candy fiend with drinking soda in huge excess. Not anymore, or eating after dinner. I've lost 15lbs in about a month. I've been doing a little exercise and taking good hikes everyday with a small pack I put 15lbs of wieghts in to make it interesting. Now that I'm eating better, I can't believe how inundated with food commercials and restuarants and just plane junk there is to eat out there. I still eat meat, but I'm eating better. And shal soon reach or surpass <I will surpass> my goal of a 20lb reduction in my fat *ss....lol

[Ishkabibble]

Yes! It's amazing how in a single show you see around 20 commercials of JUNK food.

[ArtificialOne]

Yeah, I turn down, mute or change the channel now on the tv or radio when I hear food advertised. I find it helps, especially when I'm so hungry I could go all cannibal.

[Seraphynth]

I originally became vegetarian for humane reasons, but...after being vegetarian for two years, well.
I can't say I have any political stance on it much anymore. I just like being vegetarian, and I just like eating only vegetables (and synthetically made products o: ).
Ryan (my boyfriend) eats mostly meat (also broccoli, onions, pasta and cookies...but mostly meat). When ever he takes me out to dinner I get to have his salad and veggies. xD But he does like to steal my tofu and veggie sushi. He likes them a lot. :]
I'm amazed how he can eat his steaks still bleeding though. Ick. I'm so grossed out that I'm fascinated and have to watch him chew his bloody cow muscle ('cause I don't think it's really steak if it's not cooked O_o ).

[Paigeybobert]

Well, I used to be a vegetarian, for three years actually. I just was influenced by Darlene on Roseanne. Yeah, it was pathetic.

[Minyaliel]

Originally Posted by Ishkabibble

In my case, only when there's meat or chicken cooking somewhere it seems to have a horrific smell.

Ugh, the smell of meat in preparing... I usually stay clear of the kitchen when my mother prepares food for herself and my brother. And I gladly walk the longer way to avoid passing junk food restaurants, because the stench from those make me want to puke.

[JCC]

You guys are screwing up the food chain.

That aside, my sister is a vegetarian (and also disregards the food chain). If you live in the UK, there's a brand called Quorn that make vegetarian everything, and even I like them (but feel guilty for messing up the food chain afterwards). Bramley apple sausages, mm.

[Drake Dun]

The food chain is a natural phenomenon, not a moral law. You don't need to feel guilty for "messing up" the food chain, anymore than you should feel guilty for putting a lightning rod on your house (thereby cheating the lightning of its natural pattern of blasting the fuck out of your roof) or using a condom (thereby cheating the sex act of its natural habit of resulting in pregnancy).

Almost none of the animal products that you consume are anything that would have been available to your primitive ancestors, anyway.

Hopefully that takes a load off. Useless guilt is... well, useless.

Drake

[Drake Dun]

Here's an interesting example of the peculiarities that surround our opinions on animals and the exploitation of them for our benefit or pleasure.

javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/us/2007/05/24/murphy.one.lucky.cat.wkyc','2009/05/23');

Now obviously, there is an extra issue here to the extent we see the cat as someone's property. But damage to that property qua property should not disturb us any more than, say, if some kid smashed your mailbox with a baseball bat.

I notice that CNN commentators do not throw a fit when somebody puts an arrow into a wild deer just because they get a kick out of it, or uses a pneumatic gun to punch a hole through the head of a cow... or ten thousand of them. Why is that?

Drake

[Cyntrox]

We already fucked up natural selection, so I guess the food chain is not a big deal, eh?

[Drake Dun]

Hmm... I can't figure out how to get a link to that video. It's the one presently accessible from the CNN front page about the cat getting shot with an arrow.

Drake

[Drake Dun]

Originally Posted by Cyntrox

We already fucked up natural selection, so I guess the food chain is not a big deal, eh?

Precisely. We do not owe some bizarre kind of blood debt to our historical origins as a species.

Drake

[Maggoty Anne]

Originally Posted by MollyMac

This sounds like an asshole statement, but I believe that if you do not have the stomach to kill and dress something, then you shouldn't eat it. If you cannot deal with how your food is prepped, then how can you eat it?

I was raised on a small farm and was party and hand to the slaughter and the preparation of animals as a food source. From egg to cow. It is gruesome, hard, and sometimes heartwrenching work. I will not say that it was painless for the animals, but we were also not a corporation with profit on the brain. I did not eat meat for a long time after college after hearing about conditions of animals raised on larger company farms, but slowly came back with free range and local meat producers.

I have as much issue with preachy carnivores as I do with preachy vegetarians/vegans. I think it's nice to be in the first world where we can choose what we want to eat instead of eating whatever is given to us or isn't rancid. Hell, it's nice to be well off enough to make these choices.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. we need to think of pig as a living breathing animal that died so we could live, not bacon. i also think we waste way too much of the animal. why don't we eat chicken livers?

[Ishkabibble]

Funny thing, we don't see human meat being sold in the stores when it is the softest meat you can find.

[Renatus]

One thing I don't really understand is Christian vegitarians, specificly due to the fact that it says in the bible that animals were put on this earth to serve humans. Are these the same people who as child were told about pet heaven?

[dark_dragon_of_ice]

I love chicken.