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09-12-2009, 11:41 PM
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Lol I'm actually starting to find humor in your whole "go outside" thing. ^_^
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09-12-2009, 11:48 PM
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sometimes when you look at a book you don't really like the cover but as soon as you start reading it you enjoy it.
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09-13-2009, 01:37 AM
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how clever you are .
why should i express my viewpoint with some ignorant like yourself who know nothing about politic.therefore the only defence against it you can think of is to trough some random insult.
well after seeing your childish behaviour ,i feel unnecessary to give any further information on why i do hate him .
do you talk politic with children?no you don't.
go back to play outside with your doll.
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Alright, fine. Since you're so brilliant, and I'm so ignorant and childish, enlighten me. What is socialism, how is Obama a socialist, and why do socialists deserve to be shot?
I challenge you.
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09-13-2009, 01:45 AM
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I would consider him to be more of a marxist than anything else...
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09-13-2009, 02:25 AM
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For fuck's sake.
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09-13-2009, 02:29 AM
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how is that related to Obama may i ask?
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09-13-2009, 02:34 AM
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Alright, fine. Since you're so brilliant, and I'm so ignorant and childish, enlighten me. What is socialism, how is Obama a socialist, and why do socialists deserve to be shot?
I challenge you.
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why doing have to be so patronizing ?
am i back at school.
in the first place if i posted in this tread it 's because i wanted to give my viewpoint.
obviously i entered this tread to be talking about it but not to be question about socialism and so on.
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09-13-2009, 02:37 AM
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I would consider him to be more of a marxist than anything else...
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I'm really stuck here. Part of me knows that not only are you utterly unable to support this baseless claim in any way, but you're not even going to try, and so resolves that I should just make a fat joke. Another, admittedly smaller, more idealistic part of me hopes that reason can still prevail over your nonsense.
I am going to humbly, respectfully, request that you explain the process by which you've come to this conclusion.
I would appreciate it very much if you didn't say something to the effect of "this is my opinion, you have yours ^_^". I am asking that you explain what in Obama's statements indicates that he is a Marxist as that philosophy is defined by its founder. Please.
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09-13-2009, 03:34 AM
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I can't believe she actually claimed that...
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09-13-2009, 03:51 AM
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why doing have to be so patronizing ?
am i back at school.
in the first place if i posted in this tread it 's because i wanted to give my viewpoint.
obviously i entered this tread to be talking about it but not to be question about socialism and so on.
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You gave a viewpoint that you apparently can't support, since you didn't answer my question.
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09-13-2009, 04:13 AM
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I can't believe she actually claimed that...
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Perhaps vindicatedxjin should stop discussing things like politics and morality with us and stick to things that she does understand, like walnut whips, ill-fitting jogging pants and varicose veins.
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09-13-2009, 04:27 AM
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Are walnut whips still around? Haven't seen one for years.
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09-13-2009, 04:42 AM
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A friend of mine had one a couple of days ago and upon sighting it I almost fainted.
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09-13-2009, 04:53 AM
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You've made my inner fat girl cry. I used to love those things.
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09-13-2009, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gothicusmaximus
I'm really stuck here. Part of me knows that not only are you utterly unable to support this baseless claim in any way, but you're not even going to try, and so resolves that I should just make a fat joke. Another, admittedly smaller, more idealistic part of me hopes that reason can still prevail over your nonsense.
I am going to humbly, respectfully, request that you explain the process by which you've come to this conclusion.
I would appreciate it very much if you didn't say something to the effect of "this is my opinion, you have yours ^_^". I am asking that you explain what in Obama's statements indicates that he is a Marxist as that philosophy is defined by its founder. Please.
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I'm not saying that he IS a marxist I'm also not going to try and be all high and mighty about this mostly because I'm not all that intelligent on this matter. But from what I do know, I see many marxist traits in Obama. First being the whole situation with Honduras... Why is Obama giving support to a communist act? Why is our goverment working with Hugo Chavez who is a tyrant and communist?
Also he's so upset that the jews are building houses in Israel...yet he's completely okay with the fact of muslims building nuclear bombs in Iran. And why did he feel that Russia's iilegal act of invading Georgia had more moral equivalent then Georgia defending themselves?
What get's me though isn't the fact that Obama wants to side with these tyrants, but the fact that the media and congress are all standing by it without any protest whatsoever.
Obviously there's a reason for why Obama is making these decisions...I'm not going to jump the gun and call him evil and assume that he's trying to ruin the country. I'm just seeing whats going on...
I don't dislike him any more than I did bush or clinton. If anything I feel like everything since long ago has led up to this point on purpose, for a reason. And that our government has something all planned out. For those of you that are for the American government I'm sorry for offending you. But I'm against what this country stands for...and if I had the opportunity to leave I would.
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09-13-2009, 11:28 AM
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Looks like someone has been watching alot of Fox News.
Let me guess; Vind's Parents are republicans, right?
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09-13-2009, 11:28 AM
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Actually No...neither of them vote.
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09-13-2009, 11:30 AM
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I'm not saying that he IS a marxist I'm also not going to try and be all high and mighty about this mostly because I'm not all that intelligent on this matter.
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This is how you know you should stop talking.
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09-13-2009, 11:40 AM
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Why because I can admit that I'm not a puffed up pompous ass like you and GM?
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09-13-2009, 11:43 AM
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If you know your views are idiotic, why are posting huge posts about really really ignorant stupid shit?
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09-13-2009, 11:43 AM
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Why because I can admit that I'm not a puffed up pompous ass like you and GM?
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No, because you can admit that you have no fucking idea what you are on about.
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09-13-2009, 11:45 AM
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I know what I'm talking about...just not very in depth. But apparently neither do you because I don't see you countering what I said...with anything credible.
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09-13-2009, 11:47 AM
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I know what I'm talking about...just not very in depth. But apparently neither do you because I don't see you countering what I said...with anything credible.
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You said that Obama was a marxist because you don't think that he cares about nuclear stockpiling in Iran, what the fuck am I meant to say to you other than you ought to be lobotomised?
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09-13-2009, 11:49 AM
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...Answer me...is it not true???
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09-13-2009, 11:58 AM
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I'm not saying that he IS a marxist I'm also not going to try and be all high and mighty about this mostly because I'm not all that intelligent on this matter. But from what I do know, I see many marxist traits in Obama.
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Holy shit, was that supposed to be a Glenn Beck impression? Because it was great.
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First being the whole situation with Honduras... Why is Obama giving support to a communist act? Why is our goverment working with Hugo Chavez who is a tyrant and communist?
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I guess there isn't going to be any support from his statements after all. Oh well.
Our government isn't 'working with' Hugo Chavez. It just happens to agree with Hugo Chavez on a matter in regard to which most of the world agrees with Hugo Chavez. To my knowledge, Obama hasn't said he liked Zelaya's government, which was never communist anyway, just that the current regime was erected undemocratically and in violation of Honduras' constitution.
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Also he's so upset that the jews are building houses in Israel...yet he's completely okay with the fact of muslims building nuclear bombs in Iran.
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Okay, this is an absolutely absurd distortion not only of my question, but of reality itself. Even if Obama was 'completely okay' with Iran's nuclear development, which he is by no means, that attitude would not qualify him as a Marxist. I can likewise assure you that the president has never voiced any objection to Jewish people 'building houses' in the Jewish state of Israel.
By the way, jin, Iranian nuclear armament has nothing to do with Islam.
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And why did he feel that Russia's iilegal act of invading Georgia had more moral equivalent then Georgia defending themselves?
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I need a source. I don't recall him saying any such thing, although I admit I'm not sure exactly what you're accusing him of saying, because the phrase 'had more moral equivalent' is not English. While we're on the subject, Russia's invasion of Georgia, though not exactly admirably handled, was not illegal in and of itself. Russian forces are charged with committing war crimes in the course of the conflict, but so are Georgian troops.
I appreciate that you confessed your lack of knowledge on this subject, Jin, but you have to realize that in this post you came off as a gibbering, ignorant buffoon. Perhaps in the future, before you post an opinion on the boards, you might make sure you do have the knowledge to support that opinion with facts, and, in the event that you don't, go out and acquire it. Learning is always a better use of time than this forum is, anyway, and it will make your experience here more pleasant because more people will tolerate you.
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