The Birthday Massacre

[Graveyard.Crow]

I saw them live Recenetly along with MSI

[I Am Great.]

Goths should totally get over themselves and listen to shit they like instead of a specific genre, completely discounting and / or feeling bad for liking and listening to other genres.

[LiUsAiDh]

I like Blue

The video's pretty fun

[Sir Canvas Corpsey]

I think there's a general consensus that Blue is a good song.

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[I Am Great.]

Crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sir Canvas Corpsey]

^ Well someone had to say it

It's not Gnet without random bursts of insults (also known as 'ducking')

[I Am Great.]

I get my own special name for shit now? I sure am moving up in the world.

[PortraitOfSanity]

Originally Posted by I Am Great.

Crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This. Someone put one of their albums on at my house once, so I smashed it. That's what you get for touching my stereo.

[chelseagirl]

Originally Posted by Serephurus

I know some of the music I listen to is Gothic rock/metal, but most of it might be considered industrial/heavy metal.

The thing that distinguishes me as a goth is the way I dress and like to think. Deep philosophical thoughts and dark thoughts. The leather clothes with the straps and buckles, boots, black shirts, dark jeans with chains, dark hair that is growing long. Sometimes I wear heavy eyeliner and white makeup.

lol! A word of advice, don't worry so much about labels, or what you "should" wear, and just be yourself.


hmm...I don't wear leather clothes with straps and bucklets, dark jeans with chains, have long dark hair, wear white makeup....does that mean I'm not a goth!?! Egads!!


On another note, I dislike Birthday Massacre quite a bit.

[Serephurus]

I actually like the bondage clothes, but I don't just wear all black. I try to be myself and listen to whatever I like and wear what I'm in the mood to wear. I guess I'm a poser for that, but whatever. I was a scene kid before becoming goth so whatever. I'm a mixture of both anyway.

[shogem]

Originally Posted by Serephurus

I actually like the bondage clothes, but I don't just wear all black. I try to be myself and listen to whatever I like and wear what I'm in the mood to wear. I guess I'm a poser for that, but whatever. I was a scene kid before becoming goth so whatever. I'm a mixture of both anyway.

It's not really about that. If you like the music and aesthetic, you can consider yourself a part of the subgenre. That's usually the prerequisite. Some people feel like the term "goth" or "gothic" is much more loosely defined past that, and I almost want to say that's okay.

I know it's a strange reference, but look at it this way:

Even though catholics and protestants have different ideas on things, they're still Christians because of their core beliefs. (if you really insist on arguing this, don't do it here. I'm using it as an example)

Even though goths may dress normally at times or bondage out or listen to music other than Eldritch, they still have a prerequisite of enjoying the music and ideas.

It doesn't mean "all people who listen to Sisters are goth," or "all goths listen to Sisters," but you get the idea. Being a poser really doesn't enter the equation, as people don't... really care that much after the age of seventeen. If they do, you're really looking at the wrong group of friends.

[I Am Great.]

Why do people want to be statistics?

[PortraitOfSanity]

Originally Posted by I Am Great.

Why do people want to be statistics?

239,398,290 kids agree; being a statistic is the shit!

[PortraitOfSanity]

Originally Posted by shogem

Even though catholics and protestants have different ideas on things, they're still Christians because of their core beliefs. (if you really insist on arguing this, don't do it here. I'm using it as an example)

Even though goths may dress normally at times or bondage out or listen to music other than Eldritch, they still have a prerequisite of enjoying the music and ideas.

It doesn't mean "all people who listen to Sisters are goth," or "all goths listen to Sisters," but you get the idea. Being a poser really doesn't enter the equation, as people don't... really care that much after the age of seventeen. If they do, you're really looking at the wrong group of friends.

Reading this resulted in me losing brain cells. Seriously I'm not kidding, the lack of thought you put into this waste of 5 seconds of my life made me slam my head against my desk, killing 20 brain cells.

Thanks a lot asswipe.

[shogem]

Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity

Reading this resulted in me losing brain cells. Seriously I'm not kidding, the lack of thought you put into this waste of 5 seconds of my life made me slam my head against my desk, killing 20 brain cells.

Thanks a lot asswipe.

Alright, what? At least explain why you think that way, instead of throwing out insults.

[PortraitOfSanity]

The part on Protestant vs Christian. It wasn't wrong per se, but I couldn't come up with a more random and irrelevant analogy on the topic of posers, even if I tried.

[shogem]

Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity

The part on Protestant vs Christian. It wasn't wrong per se, but I couldn't come up with a more random and irrelevant analogy on the topic of posers, even if I tried.

I'm mainly trying to show that despite disagreements, there's still a core set of ideas that make you a part of something or not. Yeah, they're not related, but it gives me a way to explain things in a different way to perhaps bring home the point.

It's not about being a "poser," because... well, why bother getting ones panties in a twist over someone's attention whoring (from my experience, it's usually what people think of a poser as)? The people who matter in one's life can't be bothered with that sort of thing, subculture or not. If the person's goth, they're goth. If not... well, that's great too. This forum seems to be a place where all kinds come to talk. You have people who are trying to get into the subculture, people who are trying to figure themselves out, and people who already have themselves mapped.

[I Am Great.]

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[shogem]

I tend to do that.

[I Am Great.]

It's the smartest thing anyone has said in this thread.

[KontanKarite]

Jesus... fuck this thread.

[Serephurus]

Jesus is a virgin. He'll do no such thing!

[KontanKarite]

Go tell that to the Masons.

[Clockwork]

Nicholas Cage is so lucky to have found all their gold, that bastard.

[DepthsofSpace]

I rather like the Birthday Massacre. Kill the Lights, To Die For, Lovers' End, Blue and Under the Stairs are my favorites.


On the note of some of the artist mentioned last page:

The Birthday Massacre is industrial-influenced synth-pop; The 69 Eyes consider themselves Gothic Rock (citing influences like The Sisters of Mercy, the Mission and Fields of the Nephilim); Emilie Autumn is another industrial-influenced darkwave project with Victorian aesthetics.