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Old 10-06-2012, 06:56 AM   #126
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How can you routinely miss the point so badly
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:00 AM   #127
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How can you routinely miss the point so badly
Because the point is about racism.. and I'm white, so I can't possibly get it.
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:04 AM   #128
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Ok, sorry I made things difficult for you, I'll try not to write in big blocks


No, I think it's funny to see silly white people going along with it. I didn't say anyone should be offended, I haven't addressed Alan or Versus really. I was talking to you and other white ppl. I didn't talk over anyone, that discussion was already rounded off, to me anyway, and you're right, I haven't seen and am not aware of Jonathan's comments in other threads.

I wasn't 'told off', I was guided, I was with her for the next two years and it never really came up again. I didn't see it as being told off cause I don't have a chip on my shoulder about this shit, and because she wasn't quite as uppity about the dumb white folk as you, but it was enlightening. That said I haven't taken all she said to heart since despite being a BLACK PERSON she had no monopoly on race thinking so it's complicated, much like anything where people are involved
And yet you feel comfortable entering a place where PoC are friends with white people and routinely talk to each other about race, and just right off the bat assume its all white people approaching PoC being all like "OH HEY YOU SHOULD READ THIS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND YOUR OWN OPPRESSHIONZ" because you, yourself, like to assume you know better than everyone?

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You may think your behaviour is different, I'm inclined to disagree
I forgot we installed that camera that lets everyone on Gnet know whenever I talk to a PoC so you can monitor and judge and compare notes.

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I think you're coming from a position of white ignorance suddenly opened up to a lot of race theory without much day to day interaction with the people the theory applies to, I could be wrong but that's the impression I get, if it's not true then who cares
You like to assume a lot of things, don't you? I'm not going to go into my history with PoC, because I don't think I should use people I love and admire as a "I know more about racism than you" card in a pissing match with a smug kid who thinks he's entitled to everything, much as I joke about it.

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Either way you're right, this thread's gone more off topic and I don't use this forum any more really for a variety of reasons so w/e, llow it
Thank you for so graciously giving us permission to talk to friends, bro.
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:08 AM   #129
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@JCC - so you're not interested in sharing your cartography skills then?
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:18 AM   #130
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@JCC - so you're not interested in sharing your cartography skills then?
I said I was done arguing and I am so I deleted it. I don't see a purpose in continuing a heated argument where my intentions are being misread and increasingly I think I'm misreading other people's. Little point in anger that goes nowhere with people I don't really know any more and who don't really know me any more, think what you think and I'll just do the same
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:25 AM   #131
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Interesting how it is that you don't really know us, and yet you have felt comfortable enough to consistently label us and decide what our motives and experiences are.
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:30 AM   #132
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Interesting how it is that you don't really know us, and yet you have felt comfortable enough to consistently label us and decide what our motives and experiences are.
Hence why I've said I'm not bothering with this discussion any more. There's been a lot of accusations on both sides which probably all fell a bit flat so it's a waste of time
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:34 AM   #133
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Nope. Pretty much the accusations were one sided.
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:35 AM   #134
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Lol, if you say so
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:16 PM   #135
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Uh guys I never tried to make the thread be about me. I don't know where that came from. JCC, any post that doesn't consist of enlightened ally fawning is oppressive here.

JCC, if you care to brought up to speed:
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I think economic factors are a more immediate barrier to quality of life than racial ones, and I think Elevatorgate was a laughable clusterfuck. These spawned tens of pages of raging.
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:45 PM   #136
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Wow, you still whining about that?
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:21 PM   #137
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Oh, shit. Did you see that thread, Alan? Dude couldn't argue his case and just left. Just try and tell me you didn't see the tired "white guy disengages from racial argument" coming.







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Old 10-06-2012, 08:22 PM   #138
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:29 PM   #139
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Alan, not whining about shit.

Versus, we hit a deadlock. I stated my position, you stated yours. We don't agree. That happens sometimes. I can't see any point in continuing to throw words at each other on the subject. You want to call it "dude just left", knock yourself out. When statements routinely get misinterpreted, willfully or otherwise, it's stupid to continue, let alone the shit that flies out of left field (martyr accusations, speculation on my fucking mood, claiming I'm making the thread about me, etc). I'm apparently not the only one to figure that out, JCC just seems to care enough about his time to not get dragged in for the ride over pages and pages.
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:05 AM   #140
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:29 PM   #141
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I can't help but wonder if the real reason behind this thread is that Alan hates 90's rock.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:52 PM   #142
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:00 PM   #144
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I was wondering why he looked so familiar. It's because I saw his "GINGERS DO HAVE SOULS" video.
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