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09-06-2007, 03:08 PM
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Him
The kiss sweetest
And touch so warm
The smile kindest
In this world so cold and strong...
The arms safest
And words all good
The faith deepest
In this world so cold and so cruel...
My gosh! why do I like this band so much???
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09-06-2007, 06:15 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Massachusetts
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No. Bad dog.
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09-06-2007, 06:39 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Originally Posted by zeronegativeplus
My gosh! why do I like this band so much???
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Beats the hell outta me .
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09-06-2007, 09:32 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: GA
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I LOVE HIM--I will beat down all detractors with my mighty sword of...
Sword of....
Doom...?
no...
*thinks*
despair?
Bah! Too gothic-y
Angst..
GOD dammitt
*scratches angrily at notepad with pen and tears up paper*
Hold on a moment
*stalks off...*
Oh yeah--NO HIM bashing damn your hides...
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09-06-2007, 10:29 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Blountsville, AL
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HIM's music has about as much value as a 60's novelty Halloween songs like "Monster Mash".
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09-06-2007, 10:43 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: GA
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Oooo methinks we have a HIM basher in our midst
*pulls out unnamed sword*
Ungarde!
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09-06-2007, 11:08 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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I wouldn't even know who they were if my kid didn't love watch Viva La Bam
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09-06-2007, 11:17 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: GA
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Viva La what??? What is that LOL???
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09-06-2007, 11:26 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: a sneeze away from San Francisco
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Viva La Bam! Stev-o . . . Jackass movies . . . . testosterone poisening
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09-07-2007, 10:45 AM
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I don't think their lyrics are cheezy.
It's just that not everyone can connect.
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09-07-2007, 10:51 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by zeronegativeplus
I don't think their lyrics are cheezy.
It's just that not everyone can connect.
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True, only baby bats can.
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09-07-2007, 01:19 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Suburbiatown, Pennsylvania.
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They're one of those bands that people only listen to because Bam Margera tells them to.
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09-07-2007, 01:22 PM
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LOL...I didn't even know what that was. I dunno--I am a child of the eighties, so they have a similar sensibility that appeals to me and I so will be going to their concert in NOVEMBER baby whoo hooo!
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09-07-2007, 01:29 PM
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I will say in defense of HIM, as a dark rock band, they're pretty good. But they're not a goth rock band. Pffftt... I liked a lot of their songs, but there's only so many ways you can say "death" and "I love you".
They got repetative really fucking fast.
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09-07-2007, 01:30 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: In the broken temple bells, in the ringing...
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I listen to them because I like them. I just like the way the stuff sounds.
I'm hoping the show in December is better than the ones I have been to previously, since Valo was almost always pissed, and verbally incoherant
when not singing. Still fun though.
I guess the thing is not to take it too seriously. Yes, the videos are chock full of gravestnes and Ville looking delectable in some form, and they do often play on the goth stereotype I agree, but you just need to take it all with a pinch of salt I think. And I do.
I will be waiting with a laugh for the first kid to suggest they are a goth band.
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09-08-2007, 04:07 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Originally Posted by KontanKarite
They got repetative really fucking fast.
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Seconded.
And a friend of mine paid 170 pounds to go see HIM Live. When he told me I almost hit him.....
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09-08-2007, 06:36 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bucharest, Romania
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Though definitely not a goth band, I'm okay with them. They're something you can listen to when you're in a cheesy mood.
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09-08-2007, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Valrys
Seconded.
And a friend of mine paid 170 pounds to go see HIM Live. When he told me I almost hit him.....
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*Jaw hits floor* 170 POUNDS ?!?! Holy shit. That translates to what, 340 Canadian Dollars. I don't even think front row when the Rolling Stones came through was that expensive. The most I've paid for a concert was $140 CAD. Your friend is an idiot.
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09-08-2007, 08:30 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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170 quid for a ticket to anything , let alone HIM is fucking ridiculous. Did he buy it from a tout by any chance? or on ebay? Because he was seriously fucked over there. The most I have ever paid is 21 quid, and only then because of the postage.
I think my ticket for the forthcoming December show was....yep, 18 quid.
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09-08-2007, 08:38 AM
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Hahaha, I'm not exactly sure what he did to get it, but he knew what he was doing and was THAT desperate to see them.
He is suitably embarrassed now about it, and I very much doubt he'd do it again.....if he knows whats good for him.
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09-08-2007, 09:38 AM
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Location: New England
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Originally Posted by Draconysius
HIM's music has about as much value as a 60's novelty Halloween songs like "Monster Mash".
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I think you mean this as an insult but I think it's actually apt. Cheesy B-level stuff is fun if you take it for what it is. It's when people start taking it seriously as high art that they look stupid. It's like me trying to argue that Hammer horror films are cinematic masterpieces. That would show a lack of knowledge about cinema as well as a certain low taste level. Music appreciation really isn't that much different.
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09-08-2007, 09:52 AM
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Location: New England
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Originally Posted by zeronegativeplus
I don't think their lyrics are cheezy.
It's just that not everyone can connect.
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Some HIM lyrics:
In our diabolikal rapture we live on and on
And death keeps knocking at our door
So we open the door
And we die a bit more
We're in love with death and we die on and on
"We die on and on" doesn't even make sense. This was the 5th song I looked at with lyrics that involved love, tears, sex, and death. Pretty melodramatic, if not outright cheesy.
And today we'll drown in your tears
A drop of your blood tastes like wine today
Ok, definitely cliche and melodramatic, and arguably cheese.
In the grace of your love I writhe in pain
In 666 ways I love you and I hope you feel the same
Ok, if that isn't the textbook definition of cheese, I don't know what is!
I have nothing against HIM, but like I said before, calling him "deep" is like calling Hammer horror movies "deep."
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09-08-2007, 10:15 AM
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Lots, if not most, goth music is melodramatic, but we all look the other way. What's different here?
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09-08-2007, 10:29 AM
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Location: New England
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Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia
Lots, if not most, goth music is melodramatic, but we all look the other way. What's different here?
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That it's being taken so seriously, that the fans are so die hard. There are so many goth bands I make fun of for their cheesy/melodramatic/nonsensical lyrics - the Mission, Nosferatu, Inkubus Sukkubus, 45 Grave, Peter Murphy, etc. All of these acts, including HIM, have their merits, but having deep or insightful lyrics is not one of them.
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09-08-2007, 10:33 AM
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Location: Near Southampton
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Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia
Lots, if not most, goth music is melodramatic, but we all look the other way. What's different here?
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The main difference being that most goth melodrama is more interesting/varied/amusing than HIM. HIM have one song formula and that's about it.
Although I did quite enjoy their cover of Wicked Game. But then again I liked the original.
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