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09-26-2011, 07:28 AM
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Now, for a ray of hope.
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/...130313993.html
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Scientists say they have found a way to disarm the AIDS virus in research that could lead to a vaccine. Researchers have discovered that if they eliminate a cholesterol membrane surrounding the virus, HIV cannot disrupt communication among disease-fighting cells and the immune system returns to normal.
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Some of the best news I've read in a while.
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09-26-2011, 07:39 AM
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That is some awesome news! This is phenomenal!
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09-26-2011, 12:10 PM
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So far, research has been conducted only in the laboratory. But Graham says he hopes studies in animals and humans will eventually lead to an AIDS vaccine.
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Yay... more animal torture. I'd like to actually see that this works before putting stock in it. I just don't trust doctors.
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09-26-2011, 12:22 PM
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Yay... more animal torture. I'd like to actually see that this works before putting stock in it. I just don't trust doctors.
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> about to find a cure for a horrible disease.
"OMG!!!!!!! THINK OF THE ANIMALS YOU SELFISH BASTARDS!!!!!!!"
Also, I dun needa talk to a scientist. Y'all muthafuggas lyin', gettin' me pissed. Fuckin' miracles, man. That's what should cure AIDS.
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09-26-2011, 12:25 PM
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I just want proof instead of speculation. They've only done it in labs so far. What if it doesn't work in humans? Then we got all excited for nothing.
Prove it, and then I'll believe.
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09-26-2011, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Kasdeja
I just want proof instead of speculation. They've only done it in labs so far. What if it doesn't work in humans? Then we got all excited for nothing.
Prove it, and then I'll believe.
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It's not necessarily that it won't work in any particular species, it's just how it will work in any particular species. Breaking down a membrane is breaking down a membrane... they just have to find a way to target the virus and not, say, everything else. Cholesterol protects pretty much every cell in your system.
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09-26-2011, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Kasdeja
Yay... more animal torture. I'd like to actually see that this works before putting stock in it. I just don't trust doctors.
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animals vs. human life
animals vs. human life
Hmmmm, gonna have to go with 'human life' on that one.
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09-26-2011, 08:18 PM
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For realz. I'm all kinds of animal lover over here. I'm one of the types who consider all forms of life more or less equally important.
However.
A a small number of animals for the benefit of THOUSANDS of people? It's for the greater good. Hell, even a small number of people could be justified in the same way.
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09-27-2011, 09:40 AM
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Hold the mother fucking phone.
Did I seriously just read someone trying to blow the whistle on animal rights in response to scientists trying to solve the AIDS virus problem?
Some of you... SERIOUSLY need to re-evaluate your priorities.
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09-27-2011, 01:25 PM
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I know I could be completely wrong, but how much do you wanna BET that Kasdeja uses make-up, yet she complains about animal testing when it might cure motherfucking AIDS.
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You fucking people [war veterans] are only a step below entitled rich kids, the only difference being you had to do and witness horrible things, instead of being given everything.
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real classy
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09-27-2011, 02:31 PM
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I don't wear makeup because of animal testing, and you're a douche.
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09-27-2011, 02:40 PM
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Well, why the hell didn't you bet on something you knew you'd win anyway?
And you seriously don't wear any makeup?
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Originally Posted by KissMeDeadly
You fucking people [war veterans] are only a step below entitled rich kids, the only difference being you had to do and witness horrible things, instead of being given everything.
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real classy
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09-27-2011, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kasdeja
I don't wear makeup because of animal testing, and you're a douche.
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You're the one being a douche. A few animals get tested on to save the lives of hundreds of thousands* of individuals and you wanna fucking complain about it?? You've got some mighty fucked up priorities, son!
*I'm making an assumption on that. I don't know the actual number.
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09-27-2011, 04:15 PM
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Lots of people don't wear make up.
But its kinda a moot point to be arguing about animal testing, by law all medicine has to be tested on animals whether the scientists think its necessary or not.
That said I'm cautiously optimistic. There's been a lot of potential cures over the years, while it'll be awesome if it works out we really can't get excited until the vaccine is produced.
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09-27-2011, 08:26 PM
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I don't need to wear makeup, alan.
Also, I agree with Saya on this one.
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09-27-2011, 09:08 PM
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I don't need to wear makeup, alan.
Also, I agree with Saya on this one.
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That's interesting coming from someone who brought up the whole 'little animals being tortured so people don't have to die from a horrible disease' BS.
Suddenly your stance changes instead of you being an adult and admitting that your original statement was bullshit.
Also, how you can you people not wear make up? I love that shit!
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09-27-2011, 09:22 PM
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Shit. I'd be cool with a god damned Bengal tiger getting its ass straight killed if I knew it'd cure something like AIDS or cancer.
Humanity. Let's try being good to us first and then being good to our animal neighbors a very close second.
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09-27-2011, 09:49 PM
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Great! Then let's try it out on the rapists and child molesters in the prison system. They're animals.
Oh, and my original statement isn't bullshit. You can't let anything you don't agree with go, can you?
Besides, I look fine without makeup.
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09-27-2011, 10:03 PM
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Great! Then let's try it out on the rapists and child molesters in the prison system. They're animals.
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What the fuck you fucking bitch?
You put animals on the same level as rapists and child molesters?
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Originally Posted by KissMeDeadly
You fucking people [war veterans] are only a step below entitled rich kids, the only difference being you had to do and witness horrible things, instead of being given everything.
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real classy
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09-27-2011, 10:09 PM
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LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLL!!!!
OMG! This just got delicious! Keep talking Kasdeja. This shit is gold!
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09-28-2011, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Kasdeja
Great! Then let's try it out on the rapists and child molesters in the prison system. They're animals.
Oh, and my original statement isn't bullshit. You can't let anything you don't agree with go, can you?
Besides, I look fine without makeup.
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1. You're a fucktard.
2. Wear some lipstick.
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09-28-2011, 07:06 AM
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Besides if we can cure aids in humans we can likely cure aids in other animals. When it comes down to it, a single animal not getting killed isn't likely going to make a difference when it comes to saving the lives of humans and animals. Whereas each and every human life saved can make who knows how much of a difference in saving the lives of both humans AND animals. When it comes to medicine and doctors have to choose between two humans they choose the person more likely to survive and who's survival is more important, when you put animals in such a comparison, they just don't stand a chance.
If all the animal species in the world were going to be killed, and you had to choose one species to survive, you would be foolish not to go with humanity, especially considering we're the only ones who would stand a chance of bringing the other species back from extinction.
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09-28-2011, 08:06 AM
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Wait, I'm confused. Why does makeup automatically equal animal testing? I have a bathroom and train case full of totally vegan products. Are you seriously boycotting all makeup just because of animal testing? Because that's silly and unnecessary. If you don't wear makeup for some other reason and said it's because of animal testing because it seemed good for this particular argument: also silly.
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09-28-2011, 08:18 AM
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To be fair, she didn't say why she didn't wear make up. Things like toothpaste, household cleaners, even shaving razors are probably more better things to ask about.
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Also, how you can you people not wear make up? I love that shit!
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Too time consuming. I might wear concealer if my skin breaks out but otherwise I'll only wear it in a blue moon when I suddenly find it fun.
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09-28-2011, 08:26 AM
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To be fair, she didn't say why she didn't wear make up. Things like toothpaste, household cleaners, even shaving razors are probably more better things to ask about.
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I don't wear makeup because of animal testing, and you're a douche.
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She did. Which is where I got confused.
I make my own toothpaste and household cleaners.
But I also eat bacon.
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