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Old 05-18-2006, 01:41 PM   #26
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Whats makes you think I dont care? I thought it was a thoughtfull reply. Not much to add to that.

I know we're just debating ideas and thats cool but I have mentioned before that this is a non-issue for now as the whole thing is wraped up in a bill that wont pass so basically everyone will pat themselves on the back and say they tried but it just didnt make it through and it will be much as it is now whether anyone thinks thats a good thing or not. What will be interesting is what the mood in the country will be when the Presidential elections and Senate elections come up. Should be quite a show.

As to your corrections of my poor english you definately have a good command.
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Old 05-18-2006, 10:02 PM   #27
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Just to let everbody know I was being sarcastic. He is a question. If you had five kids or even one. And you couldn't put food on the table what would you do? Would cross the boarder and work for a summer? They can make enough money to feed there families for the rest of the year. I would.
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Old 05-21-2006, 08:07 AM   #28
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got this in my e-mail today and figured i'd share since it's pretty much on-topic...

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POEM - Illegal Immigrants


I cross ocean,
poor and broke,

Take bus,
see employment folk.

Nice man
treat me good in there,
Say I need
go see Welfare.

Welfare say,
"You come no more,

We send cash
right to your door."

Welfare checks,
they make you wealthy,

Medicaid
it keep you healthy!

By and by,
Got plenty money,

Thanks to you,
TAXPAYER dummy.

Write to friends
in motherland,

Tell them
'come, fast as you can'

They come in turbans
and Ford trucks,

I buy big house
with welfare bucks.

They come here,
we live together,

More welfare checks,
it gets better!

Fourteen families,
they moving in,

But neighbor's patience
wearing thin.

Finally, white guy
moves away,
. .
I buy his house,
and then I say,

"Find more aliens
for house to rent."

In my yard
I put a tent.

Send for family
they just trash,
...
But they, too,
draw welfare cash!

Everything is
very good,
Soon we own
whole neighborhood.

We have hobby
it called breeding,

Welfare pay
for baby feeding.

Kids need dentist?
Wife need pills?

We get free!
We got no bills!

TAXPAYER crazy!
He pay all year,
To keep welfare
running here.

We think America
darn good place!
Too darn good
for white man race.

If they no like us,
they can scram,
Got lots of room
in Pakistan.

SEND THIS TO EVERY
TAXPAYER YOU KNOW

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so, yeah...
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Old 05-21-2006, 08:17 AM   #29
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Shit! Run! We're going to have a handful of Mexican gardners, orange peddlers, and housekeepers to deal with!
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Old 05-21-2006, 08:22 AM   #30
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what ocean did the mexicans cross to get here?
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Old 05-21-2006, 08:57 AM   #31
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Quote:
what ocean did the mexicans cross to get here?
The Atlantic... but that was 500 years ago...

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Old 05-21-2006, 09:59 AM   #32
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fair enough, except that's what they crossed to get there.

there's no ocean between there and here.

the point?

first line of the poem...

illegal aliens come from everywhere. the media and special interest groups have worked hard (well, not so hard really) to equate illegal aliens with mexicans in this country so there would be a point of focus. the general population in america, and humans in general, appreciate mass grouping of a topic, putting it all into a box, in order to better comprehend it... in order to get a finer grasp of what's being discussed. that's the way the topic of illegal immigration has progressed. someone says "illegal immigrant", society's mind hears "mexican".

why?

two reasons come readily to mind:

1.) it puts a face on the problem and that makes it more difficult for those on the fence to address this issue from a distanced stance.

2.) it gives the left wing, america-haters in the media as well as those in special interest groups the fire they need to call anyone opposed to illegal immigrants "rascists" and "xenophobes" - with a point of reference to back up their accusations.

an illegal is an illegal is an illegal. that desn't make him or her a mexican. it's a big world out there and people from all over make their way into our country.

this has been a public service announcement from your friendly, neighborhood edible_eye. the views expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of gothic.net, loy or captsternn - as well as others who i'm sure will chime in where they feel it's necessary.

thank you.
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Old 05-21-2006, 10:11 AM   #33
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It was just a joke. Frankly I don't care about immigration at all.
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Old 05-21-2006, 10:13 AM   #34
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no prob.

it's just the way i am, nacht.

love me one minute, hate me the next.

as the old adage goes - no harm, no foul.
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Old 05-21-2006, 10:14 AM   #35
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Old 05-21-2006, 10:17 AM   #36
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good to hear - and i hope you include yourself in that "no one", cuz from where i'm sitting, you seem like a decent kid.
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Old 05-24-2006, 10:23 PM   #37
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Why has this idiocy gone on so long?

What are we now afraid that people from the middle east are going to throw their turbans over us and steal our houses?

Get real, people.
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