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03-25-2009, 06:19 PM
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#326
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: New Zealand
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Not a clue exactly what to call myself. I haven't been to a church or claimed to follow any denomonation, yet I have a few religious views that I keep to myself.
You're damned if you do or don't, so I keep the condemnation to myself.
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Everyone has a ghost...a phantom behind us which slows and drags us down.. This ghost or spectral has a name..."Regret".
"I've never regretted anything..." - Light Yagami
Life is a shit sandwich. Unfortunately, it's always lunchtime. How much bread you have goes a long way toward determining how easy it is to swallow.
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03-25-2009, 10:22 PM
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#327
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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I thought of something at philosophy today.
You all know that bullshit argument that is the teleological 'proof' for the existence of God?
It basically says that the universe is so perfect because if there was a slight difference in its laws, then it wouldn't even exist, therefore there must be a maker.
I assume you all understand why that's stupid, but let me mention in more words why that is just wrong:
First of all, if we are talking about how improbable the universe is, then Drake already responded to it in a very beautiful example with dices, but let's use game cards.
If I remember correctly, a piece of trivia is that there's more combinations of the order of the cards in a deck than there are seconds in the age of the universe.
So shuffle your cards a little bit. Congratulations, you've just created a miracle by religious standards. You have one combination that had only one chance out of 3600*24*365*14.5 billion (I'm too lazy to do the math of the number of seconds that have passed)
Impossibly small probabilities are not uncommon in the universe. In fact they're the norm.
So that's that for probability.
But there's still the fact that if we changed one tiny thing in the universe it wouldn't even exist, like if the speed of light had been .0001% faster without changing the way time acts on the object in motion.
That's what I was thinking in philosophy.
But this is a false way to see things. The speed of light is that speed in this universe because it couldn't possibly be otherwise.
The argument that there must be a god because the universe is so balanced has no more merit than saying there must be a god because every time there is a square, it is squared. If you curved a line a little, it wouldn't be a square anymore; it can only exist as it is because of its intrinsic identity. The universe is just a very big square - I mean, it does contain everything that exists.
But why would anyone claim that there must be a god because a straight line is always straight?
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"No theory, no ready-made system, no book that has ever been written will save the world.
I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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03-25-2009, 10:29 PM
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#328
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In Antarctica with the Penguins
Posts: 1,521
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Maybe they feel as though if the line wasn't straight but... erm... bended the other way instead... that the world wouldn't exist. They do think that way after all... at least all of the crazed fanatical ones I've met anyways. They do think the world centers around their thoughts, etc...
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03-25-2009, 10:52 PM
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#329
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Athens, GA
Posts: 1,696
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Um, I follow ENigmaism.
+rep
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"Don't ever let anybody teach you to think, Lance: it is the curse of the world." - King Arthur in T.H. White's The Once And Future King
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you" The Bible (Matthew 7:12)
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03-26-2009, 01:12 AM
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#330
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Raxacoricofallapatorius
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“People go to church for the same reasons they go to a tavern: to stupefy themselves, to forget their misery, to imagine themselves, for a few minutes anyway, free and happy”
Name the quote, Jilly bean
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Because before too long there'll be nothing left alive, not a creature on the land or sea, a bird in the sky. They'll be shot, harpooned, eaten, and hunted too much, vivisected by the clever men who prove that there's no such things as a fair world with live and let live. The Royal family go hunting, what an example to give to the people they lead and that don't include me, I've seen enough pain and torture of those who can't speak...
- Tough Shit, Mickey by Conflict
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03-26-2009, 03:14 AM
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#331
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 30
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I am a christian. if you don't believe in god and jesus you'll go to hell. thats why them homos are evil they dont let god in their hearts and cleanse the evil satanic spirits from them
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03-26-2009, 03:36 AM
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#332
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sometimes home, more time away.
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I'm athiest. I concur with Jillian today on the points he makes about the universe. The word "miracle" should be more widely acknowledged as another word for "coincidence".
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03-26-2009, 03:38 AM
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#333
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,687
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Originally Posted by Joker_in_the_Pack
“People go to church for the same reasons they go to a tavern: to stupefy themselves, to forget their misery, to imagine themselves, for a few minutes anyway, free and happy”
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That's Bakunin. I believe it's from God and the State, which is my favorite of the things Bakunin wrote.
Edit: I just realized your signature gives it away. This is no game at all.
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03-26-2009, 03:53 AM
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#334
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 21
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religion is just another way to keep everyone in order.
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03-26-2009, 07:31 AM
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#335
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Minnesota, USA
Posts: 4,448
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I was raised Christian, but bow I'm agnostic. Woo.
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03-26-2009, 10:43 AM
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#336
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In Antarctica with the Penguins
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Originally Posted by Lakita in the House!
I am a christian. if you don't believe in god and jesus you'll go to hell. thats why them homos are evil they dont let god in their hearts and cleanse the evil satanic spirits from them
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03-26-2009, 09:49 PM
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#337
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 1,178
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My trolldar is registering a blip the size of a large black woman.
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03-26-2009, 10:15 PM
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#338
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: United States.
Posts: 1,670
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Originally Posted by Lakita in the House!
I am a christian. if you don't believe in god and jesus you'll go to hell. thats why them homos are evil they dont let god in their hearts and cleanse the evil satanic spirits from them
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Ahaha. I laughed real good. Good troll is good.
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03-26-2009, 10:21 PM
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#339
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 30
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why do all these hatin' bitches be callin' me a troll. especially slap your love. he or she looks like they was beaten with a ugly stick and mr. enigma is a fuckin; dumbass name, and i seen what he looks like he looks like one of them homos. thats nasty why you take it up yo assho'? y'all need to take the god damn dicks out cho' mouths and fuckin' realize who you is messin' with!!!
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03-26-2009, 10:31 PM
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#340
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: In absentia.
Posts: 104
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I fear I've become an athiest. I did not think it would happen, but apparently so.
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03-26-2009, 10:36 PM
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#341
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In Antarctica with the Penguins
Posts: 1,521
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Originally Posted by Lakita in the House!
mr. enigma is a fuckin; dumbass name, and i seen what he looks like he looks like one of them homos.
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How'd you know I'd gladly take it up the arse if ophelia, pyre, honeythorn, or solumina felt the urge to strap on... a strap-on... NO ONE'S SUPPOSED TO KNOW!!!
O_O
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03-26-2009, 10:48 PM
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#342
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: United States.
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Originally Posted by Lakita in the House!
why do all these hatin' bitches be callin' me a troll. especially slap your love. he or she looks like they was beaten with a ugly stick
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Ahahahah! Omg that's a first. I love your fat black ass. xD
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"What a bunch of garbage: liberal, democrat, conservative, republican. Two sides of the same coin. Two management teams bidding for control, the CEO job, of Slavery Inc."
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03-26-2009, 11:51 PM
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#343
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 30
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Originally Posted by Slap Your Love
Ahahahah! Omg that's a first. I love your fat black ass. xD
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everybody eventually does or else they die. of course, dying is gothic so that might be appriciated here
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03-26-2009, 11:53 PM
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#344
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 30
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Originally Posted by Mr E Nigma
How'd you know I'd gladly take it up the arse if ophelia, pyre, honeythorn, or solumina felt the urge to strap on... a strap-on... NO ONE'S SUPPOSED TO KNOW!!!
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thats nasty taking it up yo bootyhole proves that you's gay.
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03-26-2009, 11:53 PM
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#345
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 1,178
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Originally Posted by Lakita in the House!
y'all need to take the god damn dicks out cho' mouths and fuckin' realize who you is messin' with!!!
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I think I have a guess. We've missed you. :P
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03-27-2009, 01:12 AM
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#346
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Um, lower, oh yeah, uh, uh ... YES THERE!
Posts: 6,738
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Originally Posted by Crying_Crimson_Tears
What Religion do you Follow???
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Should'a asked, "What religion do you stalk???"
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As the poets have mournfully sung,
death takes the innocent young,
the rolling in money,
the screamingly funny,
and those who are very well hung.
Your days are numbered - 26,280 per person on average - 2,000,000,000 heartbeats ... tick, tick, tick
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03-27-2009, 01:22 AM
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#347
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Um, lower, oh yeah, uh, uh ... YES THERE!
Posts: 6,738
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Originally Posted by Lakita in the House!
why do all these hatin' bitches be callin' me a troll
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If the shoe fits ...
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Originally Posted by Lakita in the House!
y'all need to take the god damn dicks out cho' mouths and fuckin' realize who you is messin' with!!!
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That would be a 30 post cyber-fart in the interweb wind. Not much to mess with, really.
And why is it all the people who shout the loudest about how christian they are also say the most bigoted, intolerant things in the same paragraph?
Lakita, you got more than swearing vulgarity and hate speech to joust with?
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Lead me not into temptation ... follow me, I know a shortcut!
As the poets have mournfully sung,
death takes the innocent young,
the rolling in money,
the screamingly funny,
and those who are very well hung.
Your days are numbered - 26,280 per person on average - 2,000,000,000 heartbeats ... tick, tick, tick
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03-27-2009, 12:04 PM
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#348
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Oregon, USA
Posts: 16
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I suppose I'm a theist, but I'm not religious at all. And I'm perfectly happy with that.
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03-27-2009, 11:55 PM
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#349
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Um, lower, oh yeah, uh, uh ... YES THERE!
Posts: 6,738
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Is there something in the drinking water in Oregon?
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Lead me not into temptation ... follow me, I know a shortcut!
As the poets have mournfully sung,
death takes the innocent young,
the rolling in money,
the screamingly funny,
and those who are very well hung.
Your days are numbered - 26,280 per person on average - 2,000,000,000 heartbeats ... tick, tick, tick
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03-28-2009, 12:41 AM
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#350
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Athens, GA
Posts: 1,696
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Originally Posted by Ben Lahnger
Is there something in the drinking water in Oregon?
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Lead
messagetooshort
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"Don't ever let anybody teach you to think, Lance: it is the curse of the world." - King Arthur in T.H. White's The Once And Future King
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you" The Bible (Matthew 7:12)
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