Peak Oil

[Cambodian Breakfast]

Originally Posted by CptSternn

Actually the US uses it in their weapons. They then use the weapons to distribute the stuff around the globe. They have dropped tonnes of it in Iraq already. But thats getting off topic.

What are you talking about. We havent used any in Iraq.

[CptSternn]

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0515/p01s02-woiq.html

Remains of toxic bullets litter Iraq

...During the latest Iraq conflict Abrams tanks, Bradley fighting vehicles and A-10 Warthog aircraft, among other military platforms, all fired the DU bullets from desert war zones to the heart of Baghdad.

I can find more for you if you want.

[Binkie]

Originally Posted by Cambodian Breakfast

What are you talking about. We havent used any in Iraq.

He's probably talking about Depleted Uranium (a predictably common arguement). Mael and I had a pow-wow about this a few months back. He was trying to suggest that DU munitions were highly radioactive (they are fractionally radioactive - to the point of being insignificant) and caused people to get sick cause it has a half-life of 4.8 million years. On the contrary, the UN's WHO has done extensive testing on the effects of DU munitions used in Kosovo and found that it isn't linked to any notable health effects in humans. They continue to test in Iraq, but adhere to the same conclusions.

In case he says otherwise, if that is indeed what he's talking about, point him here:

http://www.who.int/ionizing_radiatio...ranium_Eng.pdf

[Crom Crauch]

Originally Posted by Morrigan_Dubh

Nuclear power? Do you really want a nuclear power plant in your back garden?

China, eh? Interesting... Can you elaborate?

I actually wouldn't terribly mind. Chernobyl was an example of nuclear power with very poorly maintained equipment. Oh yeah, there's actually less radiation from a properly sheilded nuclear reactor then from a coal -fired power plant... assuming that you live downwind from either plant.

Yeah, China... the nation that is rapidly industrializing, and as such is sucking away much of the oil from OPEC, as well as an increasing demand for raw materials and scrap metals. China is currently consuming 325 million tons of crude oil, and importing around 119 million tons of crude oil. (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...nt_4501206.htm)
In retrospect, the USA is importing 13.5 million barrels per day, and is consuming around 20.03 million barrels per day. (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/us.html)

[Cambodian Breakfast]

Originally Posted by Binkie

He's probably talking about Depleted Uranium (a predictably common arguement). Mael and I had a pow-wow about this a few months back. He was trying to suggest that DU munitions were highly radioactive (they are fractionally radioactive - to the point of being insignificant) and caused people to get sick cause it has a half-life of 4.8 million years. On the contrary, the UN's WHO has done extensive testing on the effects of DU munitions used in Kosovo and found that it isn't linked to any notable health effects in humans. They continue to test in Iraq, but adhere to the same conclusions.

In case he says otherwise, if that is indeed what he's talking about, point him here:

http://www.who.int/ionizing_radiatio...ranium_Eng.pdf

Your are right. We do use Depleted Uranium rounds in one of our aircraft. I have held this 30mm round. Didn't kill me. We also can use them in some of our anti-tank rifles. But that's really it.

[Morrigan_Dubh]

The BBC have an infomative page on DU, if anyone wants to know more. It's old but still relevant for background information.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/...um/default.stm

[angel_dark_demon_bright]

Originally Posted by CptSternn

The US might have more landmass than say Europe, but how is it then if you add all the European countries together with a comparable population you don't even get close to matching the amount of oil the US consumes? Take a look at the chart in the link at the beginning of this thread. Hell, you can take most all industrialised nations and add them up and its almost the same as the US dependancy.

It's not some freak accident. To say its because of population, size, or otherwise is silly.

Yes, but not all of europe is suddenly and completly converting to green energy. Its being done slowly by individual countrys with a much smaller population and land area than the US. And as Ive said before the US is starting to use more green fuel already, you may not hear about it much, but then, you're half a world away.

It seems the great and all knowing is not as great and all knowing as he has been lead to beleive.