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08-28-2008, 02:15 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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You have stupid asses like that on both sides of the subject,both pro-gun and anti-gun.
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08-28-2008, 02:25 PM
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#252
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Well its more of a youtube epidemic. I generally never read them anymore, it hurts my brain.
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08-28-2008, 02:36 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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I gave up on the comments along time ago,it seems like instant troll bait on there.
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08-28-2008, 04:10 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Any bow or firearms designs that some of the folks might like to post,pics,or vids as long as it is about the shooting sports,hunting,or other firearms related matters please feel free to post them here.
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08-28-2008, 05:00 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Out of my mind.
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If you want to learn how to properly and safely hold a pistol, watch this video:
Todd Jarrett on Pistols
Deadmanwalking: What are you going to be using your revolvers for? I know you said carry, but what kind of carrying? Open Carry? CCW? Hunting carrying?
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08-28-2008, 05:33 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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To answer your question Splintered for C.W. carry and for small to medium game harvesting.
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08-29-2008, 06:17 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In my shop
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All i can say is,i bet the two men that broke into my house last year are against firearms.I put a round in both.No telling what would have happend if i wasnt able to defend my family.And ill do it again if it happens again.If your against firearms,its only because you havent been in a LIFE and DEATH situation to where a gun was needed.Because i refuse to believe any SANE person would rather be butchered and killed then shoot the fuckers attacking.
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08-29-2008, 06:53 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cumbria, United Kingdom
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Originally Posted by Vlad
If your against firearms,its only because you havent been in a LIFE and DEATH situation to where a gun was needed.Because i refuse to believe any SANE person would rather be butchered and killed then shoot the fuckers attacking.
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I have been in a life and death circumstance with firearms. I am against firearms. I am still alive, obviously. I am clinically sane. I would rather be killed than kill, because I am not a murderer.
Discuss.
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08-29-2008, 11:44 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In my shop
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Originally Posted by LiUsAiDh
I have been in a life and death circumstance with firearms. I am against firearms. I am still alive, obviously. I am clinically sane. I would rather be killed than kill, because I am not a murderer.
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Self defense isnt murder.
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08-29-2008, 11:48 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Originally Posted by Vlad
Self defense isnt murder.
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It is. Is legally justified murder.
Rather than you know, murder an intruder, why not shoot them in the leg or something?
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08-29-2008, 11:48 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Raxacoricofallapatorius
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Taking another human being's life is murder. It doesn't matter who does it or why.
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08-29-2008, 11:52 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cumbria, United Kingdom
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Originally Posted by Vlad
Self defense isnt murder.
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*points to the two posts above and smiles*
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'The difference between false memories and true ones is the same as for jewels: it is always the false ones that look the most real, the most brilliant.' - Salvador Dali
Pie Jesu domine..... Donna eis requiem - *thwack*
'To become truly immortal, a work of art must escape all human limits: logic and common sense will only interfere. But once these barriers are broken, it will enter the realms of childhood visions and dreams.' - Giorgio de Chirico
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08-29-2008, 11:54 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In my shop
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Thats rediculous.Self defense isnt murder.Thats why its legal.
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08-29-2008, 11:58 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In my shop
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So your saying our troops in iraq are nothing more than murderers?
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08-29-2008, 12:03 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In my shop
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I guess that ended that.
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08-29-2008, 12:05 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cumbria, United Kingdom
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Yup, the people in the army who have killed, are murderers.
Self defence isn't always legal, it only is if you use 'reasonable' force.
Also, since when has the law been what's right. I'm talking ethically, which is more important than the law.
I mean, in the UK there's a law that you can't display mince pies in shop windows on thursday (or something along those lines).
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle2251280.ece
There's a website to teach you how sucky the law is.
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Pie Jesu domine..... Donna eis requiem - *thwack*
'To become truly immortal, a work of art must escape all human limits: logic and common sense will only interfere. But once these barriers are broken, it will enter the realms of childhood visions and dreams.' - Giorgio de Chirico
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08-29-2008, 12:05 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cumbria, United Kingdom
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Originally Posted by Vlad
I guess that ended that.
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Nope. I was typing and watching a DVD.
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'The difference between false memories and true ones is the same as for jewels: it is always the false ones that look the most real, the most brilliant.' - Salvador Dali
Pie Jesu domine..... Donna eis requiem - *thwack*
'To become truly immortal, a work of art must escape all human limits: logic and common sense will only interfere. But once these barriers are broken, it will enter the realms of childhood visions and dreams.' - Giorgio de Chirico
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08-29-2008, 12:34 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In my shop
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murder
noun
1. unlawful premeditated killing of a human being by a human being
Murderer
noun
a criminal who commits homicide (who performs the unlawful premeditated killing of another human being) Key words here being PREMEDITATED.And UNLAWFUL.
Soldiers are NOT murderers.Nor was i found to be one when i shot the two i shot.I am a killer though.And will kill again to protect my family.Firearms makes that easier for ME.I promote them.
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08-29-2008, 12:39 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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The dictionary doesn't quite define it, it defines FIRST DEGREE murder, which is premeditated. Second degree and manslaughter are not premeditated, but are still murder.
Soldiers are indeed murderers hired by governments to eradicate an enemy. You are a murderer if you killed someone, even if you perceived them as a threat. Its just that legally there are no consequences for you.
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08-29-2008, 12:55 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: In my shop
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Manslaughter
. the unlawful killing of a human being without malice aforethought.
first–degree murder
: a murder that is committed withpremeditation or during the course of a serious felony (as kidnapping) or that otherwise (as because of extreme cruelty) requires the most serious punishment under the law
second–degreemurder
: a murder that is committed without premeditation but with some intent (as general or transferred intent) or other circumstances not covered by the first-degree murderstatute
third–degree murder
: a murder that is not first- or second-degree murder: as a : a murder committed in the perpetration of a felony not listed in thefirst-degree murder statute
I see nothing here that defines our soldiers.
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08-29-2008, 01:02 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Because they are not legally viable by your government, that wouldn't make sense seeing as they work for the government. But at the same time the government can detain soldiers of the other side of the conflict and hold them up to the "law", because they dared to defend their country against a perceived threat.
The law sadly isn't justice.
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08-29-2008, 01:02 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cumbria, United Kingdom
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Your definitions are all based on the meanings of them in law courts. Not anywhere else. My personal principals, along with most other people it seems, are that killing a human = murder.
Even if you chose to go along with your point, all you've proved is I made a language error. You haven't actually disproved my original point.
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Pie Jesu domine..... Donna eis requiem - *thwack*
'To become truly immortal, a work of art must escape all human limits: logic and common sense will only interfere. But once these barriers are broken, it will enter the realms of childhood visions and dreams.' - Giorgio de Chirico
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08-29-2008, 01:03 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cumbria, United Kingdom
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The law sadly isn't justice.
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Quoted for truth.
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'The difference between false memories and true ones is the same as for jewels: it is always the false ones that look the most real, the most brilliant.' - Salvador Dali
Pie Jesu domine..... Donna eis requiem - *thwack*
'To become truly immortal, a work of art must escape all human limits: logic and common sense will only interfere. But once these barriers are broken, it will enter the realms of childhood visions and dreams.' - Giorgio de Chirico
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08-29-2008, 01:04 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Raxacoricofallapatorius
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I am not talking about the laws of this stupid country I'm talking about simple English. Murder is killing another human being. No two ways about that. Yes, our troops in Iraq are fucking murderers. Our president is a fucking murderer, and yes, you two, Vlad, are a fucking murderer. You could have shot them in the knee caps, they would have been down, or the shoulder, or the leg. What you did was kill two human beings, you're a murderer.
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