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12-02-2008, 06:32 AM
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#901
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: IL, USA
Posts: 754
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Honestly, I suspect Admin will only ban someone if Admin is at risk of legal action against themselves. If a troll posts personal info about someone or links to something illegal then Admin is at risk of being sued and will cover their ass. Everything else will slide under their radar I bet. Anyway, since Geo said she reported some trolls I guess I'll do it too. I just wanted to know I wouldn't be the only one.
HP? Have you reported any of the recent trolling? If not, care to join us?
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12-02-2008, 08:40 AM
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#902
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 4,036
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That's why moderators are necessary.
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12-02-2008, 10:19 AM
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#903
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: the concrete and steel beehive of Southern California
Posts: 7,449
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Originally Posted by Man In Room 5
HP? Have you reported any of the recent trolling? If not, care to join us?
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Yes, I have reported specific posts that I know can be justifiably deleted or at least used to warn and or ban the originator. You are not alone...in being ignored.
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12-02-2008, 12:00 PM
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#904
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: IL, USA
Posts: 754
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I just did a search on 3 trolls and sent in 64 separate complaints between just those 3 members....and I still have 1 big name troll to nail. I actually complained so much that I wouldn't be surprised if I myself was banned for overkill. I'm pretty sure Admin isn't going to like reading them all....assuming they actually do read them.
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12-02-2008, 12:05 PM
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#905
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 9,548
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The last person to get banned was poisonedblueeyes, and that was because she made her own forum and asked us to join *shrug*
I reported a few posts last week or so, and nothing seems to have come of it.
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12-02-2008, 12:07 PM
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#906
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: IL, USA
Posts: 754
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Is she the nazi bitch that runs the goth forum with the runes and uses the colors of the Nazi party as her theme?
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12-02-2008, 12:08 PM
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#907
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cali
Posts: 8,030
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Just don't complain about posts (even those made by a known troll) unless that post actually breaks a rule (such posts that could be considered harassment instead of reporting posts where they were just being a dick), otherwise it just looks like you are picking out someone simply because you don't like them and chances are the admin will disregard your complaints, including ones that may be valid.
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12-02-2008, 12:08 PM
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#908
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Namibia
Posts: 2,526
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I've reported some, too.
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12-02-2008, 12:08 PM
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#909
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 9,548
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No, she was the one who posted really gross videos and pictures of herself and couldn't type her way out of a paper bag.
EDIT: Yeah, what Solumina said, I think I reported ten or so that were blatantly in violation of the rules.
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12-02-2008, 12:10 PM
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#910
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Namibia
Posts: 2,526
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saya
No, she was the one who posted really gross videos and pictures of herself and couldn't type her way out of a paper bag.
EDIT: Yeah, what Solumina said, I think I reported ten or so that were blatantly in violation of the rules.
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It was a he. Emopoops was a he.
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12-02-2008, 12:12 PM
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#911
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 9,548
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I was so confused as to what he/she/it was >.<
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12-02-2008, 12:14 PM
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#912
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: IL, USA
Posts: 754
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I actually kept a list of the posts I complained against if anyone wants to see it when I'm done. I only complained about racist terms (like emonip), linking to racist images, gay bashing (I even let some of this slide), and a few posts that didn't actually break TOS but proved that the trolls work together. Still, it came to 64 complaints and I intend to nail 1 more of them before I'm done.
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12-02-2008, 12:21 PM
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#913
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 4,036
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What's the point of creating a forum and not coming to check it often?!! Really?
Put a moderator and you can be absent as much as you want to!!
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― Jack Osborne
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12-02-2008, 12:25 PM
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#914
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: IL, USA
Posts: 754
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Geo, from what I understand there were some abusive moderators here at one time. So, now they have a really strict "hands off" policy. Some of the older members could probably explain it better than me. I've never really been interested enough to look into it.
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12-02-2008, 12:36 PM
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#915
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 4,036
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There's a thread called "the history of gothic.net" but I'm too depressed to look it up.
Explains all about the banning i guess
We had this discussion before on this thread, and most people agreed that Underwater Ophelia can be a good moderator.
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12-02-2008, 12:45 PM
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#916
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: IL, USA
Posts: 754
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Yeah, I read the history thread too. HP wrote it in hopes that others would fill in the blanks but nobody really did. Only Admin, the trolls and a couple other people know the real story and of course they're not talking. Everyone knows who was banned but few people can say exactly why. I suspect there were more threats of legal action than most people realize and Admin only stepped in when they realized they could be sued...but that is just my guess.
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Originally Posted by Geoluhread
We had this discussion before on this thread, and most people agreed that Underwater Ophelia can be a good moderator.
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Maybe, but even if we have good people for mods that doesn't mean Admin will give them the job. I'm sure we have a few people that would make good mods but if Admin doesn't want mods we'll never get any no matter who we suggest. We can't dictate to Admin how to structure their system. Sadly, no matter how much we feel Gnet is "ours" it really isn't. It is theirs and we just play here.
EDIT: You know, I think this is the most I've ever seen you speak on here. You're usually just our resident game goddess.
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12-02-2008, 12:57 PM
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#917
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 4,036
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I'm starting to think that the admins are watching right now and laughing.
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― Jack Osborne
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12-02-2008, 12:59 PM
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#918
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: the concrete and steel beehive of Southern California
Posts: 7,449
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More like "quit your whining."
Seriously: there is a website someone posted last week about social networking software for websites, and it said something to the effect of "don't moderate and the crowd will run itself, so you can save yourself the effort."
I think that is what we have here on Gnet.
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12-02-2008, 02:36 PM
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#919
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Grotto Del Morte
Posts: 1,012
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I would like to place my ballot for images in our signatures, limited to one image, of reasonable hight and width.
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12-03-2008, 02:00 AM
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#920
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 9,548
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Originally Posted by Eclipsing the Son
I would like to place my ballot for images in our signatures, limited to one image, of reasonable hight and width.
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Its the same problem though, only instead of just clicking on the picture thread, and some troll has a picture of a ruptured and infected penis, you can click on any thread and see ruptured and infected penises.
Its a silly example, but there's been issues in the past of people doing that, and posting much much worse, it got so bad they just got rid of image posting altogether. Plus they don't moderate enough to keep on top of that sort of thing, could be days before someone gets told off or banned for it.
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12-03-2008, 11:41 AM
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#921
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: IL, USA
Posts: 754
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I finally finished troll hunting. I sent in complaints on no less than 79 posts spread between only 4 trolls. (I won't say who but you could guess.) I also sent a message via the "Contact Us" to Admin, and last but not least I did a Whois on Gothic.net to get the Email given there just in case the "Contact Us" form doesn't actually reach the same address. If anyone wants I'll post the results of the Whois querry, but it's public record anyway so anyone can get it themselves if they feel their complaints aren't reaching the right person.
79 complaints sounds like a lot but I was actually pretty lenient when you consider that I read over 1550 posts. (Yes, I am a vindictive, relentless prick who goes to great lengths when offended or angry--ask any of my ex-GFs.) I cited blatant racism, homophobia and other types of slander when it was the prime motive of the post. I didn't include insults made in passing as part of a larger post because we all tend to do that occasionally. I tried to limit myself to those posts that really crossed the line. I also cited a handful of other posts that were not offensive in themselves but proved that the trolls are working together bragging about their trolling and planning future trolling. Lastly, I kept a list of direct links to all the posts I cited in case anyone else would like to complain about them or question my criteria for complaining.
This took over 8 hours. Remember that the next time one of the trolls tells you that they've gone back and read all your posts and have proof that you're the troll. I'm pretty sure none of the 4 I reported have that kind of dedication to any sort of idealism.
Now I can put the trolls back on ignore.
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12-03-2008, 11:49 AM
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#922
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: London.
Posts: 324
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Man In Room 5
I cited blatant racism, homophobia and other types of slander when it was the prime motive of the post.
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I’m not a homophobic, but homophobia is not slander. It is as acceptable as being gay, if not more acceptable.
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12-03-2008, 11:55 AM
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#923
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: IL, USA
Posts: 754
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bat Attack
I’m not a homophobic, but homophobia is not slander. It is as acceptable as being gay, if not more acceptable.
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OK. Point taken. I should have said "gay bashing".
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12-03-2008, 04:28 PM
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#924
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: in a kingdom by the sea
Posts: 95
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Man In Room 5
I finally finished troll hunting. I sent in complaints on no less than 79 posts spread between only 4 trolls. (I won't say who but you could guess.) I also sent a message via the "Contact Us" to Admin, and last but not least I did a Whois on Gothic.net to get the Email given there just in case the "Contact Us" form doesn't actually reach the same address. If anyone wants I'll post the results of the Whois querry, but it's public record anyway so anyone can get it themselves if they feel their complaints aren't reaching the right person.
79 complaints sounds like a lot but I was actually pretty lenient when you consider that I read over 1550 posts. (Yes, I am a vindictive, relentless prick who goes to great lengths when offended or angry--ask any of my ex-GFs.) I cited blatant racism, homophobia and other types of slander when it was the prime motive of the post. I didn't include insults made in passing as part of a larger post because we all tend to do that occasionally. I tried to limit myself to those posts that really crossed the line. I also cited a handful of other posts that were not offensive in themselves but proved that the trolls are working together bragging about their trolling and planning future trolling. Lastly, I kept a list of direct links to all the posts I cited in case anyone else would like to complain about them or question my criteria for complaining.
This took over 8 hours. Remember that the next time one of the trolls tells you that they've gone back and read all your posts and have proof that you're the troll. I'm pretty sure none of the 4 I reported have that kind of dedication to any sort of idealism.
Now I can put the trolls back on ignore.
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bloody pig-fuck... you aren't kidding, are you? dude you should have called. we could have played yahtzee or something. damn.
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12-10-2008, 08:38 PM
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#925
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Back in Wisconsin(thinking about invading the south)
Posts: 3,693
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Can we get this "Danny" spam bot dealt with quickly. It doesn't look like it is going to stop anytime soon.
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