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11-26-2008, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Necrophagist
Metallica was the worst of the big four, because their songs were toned down, scene kid friendly, rubbish.
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11-26-2008, 12:50 PM
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#77
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Originally Posted by Necrophagist
Metallica was the worst of the big four, because their songs were toned down, scene kid friendly, rubbish.
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First off, No they weren't
Secondly, If for any reason It'd be because Lars Ulrich sold out.
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11-26-2008, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanguine Mind
First off, No the y weren't
Secondly, If for any reason It'd be because Lars Ulrich sold out.
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How can you sell out in metal? There's no anti-mainstream creed behind the genre. It's just a collection of (usually) talented musicians trying to get rich and famous playing music. It's not like punk where they were protesting something. For crying out loud the fore runners of the genre were Judas Priest and they've worked bigger venues than anyone.
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11-26-2008, 12:52 PM
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Lars sold out?
What?
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11-26-2008, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Wormboy
How can you sell out in metal? There's no anti-mainstream creed behind the genre. It's just a collection of (usually) talented musicians trying to get rich and famous playing music. It's not like punk where they were protesting something. For crying out loud the fore runners of the genre were Judas Priest and they've worked bigger venues than anyone.
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This is how he sold out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalli...2.80.932001.29
And yes, I understand they try to make money, but there's a limit to how much bitching they can do about it...
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11-26-2008, 12:54 PM
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That's pretty much a conversation ender there.
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11-26-2008, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanguine Mind
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Napster stole Metallica's music and then sold it to the public without giving Metallica any of the profit.
Lars Ulrich complained.
Why the fuck wouldn't he?
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11-26-2008, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanguine Mind
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A case against Napster?
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11-26-2008, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanguine Mind
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I'll tell you what, you work hard for twenty years to make albums only to have some piss-fucks on the internet sell it without giving you a red cent and then call you a sellout when you complain.
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11-26-2008, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JCC
Napster stole Metallica's music and then sold it to the public without giving Metallica any of the profit.
Lars Ulrich complained.
Why the fuck wouldn't he?
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Of course, and While I get that, He made it into a way bigger deal than it was.
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11-26-2008, 01:00 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
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Albert, shut up.
Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, and Iron Maiden were the forerunners of metal.
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11-26-2008, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Necrophagist
Albert, shut up.
Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, and Iron Maiden were the forerunners of metal.
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Iron Maiden were a whole decade after the first two, what are you talking about?
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11-26-2008, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Necrophagist
Albert, shut up.
Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, and Iron Maiden were the forerunners of metal.
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Iron Maiden isn't a Forerunner of Metal, it IS Metal.
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11-26-2008, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
For the record, bands opinions of themselves don't always matter that much. Deep Purple doesn't want to be called Metal or even Classic Rock. Gerard Way stated in an interview that "emo is a pile of shit", and that his band was never emo (which is actually incorrect, as the band's sound started out "Emo" and evolved into "Emo Pop").
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Seeing how their first album was all about killing people and vampires, I didn't get an emo feeling from it at all, just an attempt at being goffik.
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11-26-2008, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Necrophagist
Albert, shut up.
Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, and Iron Maiden were the forerunners of metal.
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I think that by BIG FOUR, we meant... you know... the Big Four of THRASH.
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11-26-2008, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanguine Mind
The following bands ARE NOT metal:
Korn
Bullet for my Valentine
System of a Down
Limp Bizkit (Sadly I have heard them be refered to as metal before...)
Slipknot
Papa Roach (Sadly them too)
Hatebreed
Linkin Park (and even them...)
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Some of those bands are probably actually metal, just different types - like subgenres. But not METAL metal, if you get what I mean.
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11-26-2008, 01:04 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Lol, We all need to crack out our webcams and argue about this simultaneously. (sp?)
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11-26-2008, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Saya
Seeing how their first album was all about killing people and vampires, I didn't get an emo feeling from it at all, just an attempt at being goffik.
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The music was emo, though. The singing, instruments, etc. And I've read that "Vampires Will Never Hurt You" was symbolic.
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11-26-2008, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bat Attack
Some of those bands are probably actually metal, just different types - like subgenres. But not METAL metal, if you get what I mean.
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Quoted for Truth
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Kontan - "Eventually, you ended up looking like the freaking grim reaper towards the end of the game.
Now we got this cracked out jungle hobo...."
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11-26-2008, 01:11 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Originally Posted by Wormboy
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^ Seconded, Bat attack you fucking rule.
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11-26-2008, 01:14 PM
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#96
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Originally Posted by Sanguine Mind
^ Seconded, Bat attack you fucking rule.
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First you make an ass-hat claim and then you agree when someone proves you wrong?
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Kontan - "Eventually, you ended up looking like the freaking grim reaper towards the end of the game.
Now we got this cracked out jungle hobo...."
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11-26-2008, 01:14 PM
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Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath aren't in the same genre of Metal, though. Iron Maiden are NWOBHM and Black Sabbath are just Heavy Metal.
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11-26-2008, 01:17 PM
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11-26-2008, 01:18 PM
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#99
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Originally Posted by Wormboy
First you make an ass-hat claim and then you agree when someone proves you wrong?
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He didn't prove me wrong, he pretty much said what I was having a hard time getting out.
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11-26-2008, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
The music was emo, though. The singing, instruments, etc. And I've read that "Vampires Will Never Hurt You" was symbolic.
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I find with Emo though by listening to it you can tell that it derived from punk, but MCR at that time you could tell that it was a popish gothic rock attempt. His singing is pretty standard with pop punk, or what was classified pop punk at the time. And did you see the album art, and where they would normally have the warning not to rip the cd and distribute it? They had "if you do Gerard Way will come to your door and suck your blood."
However I haven't listened to anything by them after, so I don't really know what they sound like now.
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