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08-07-2009, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
Have you read Kropotkin?
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I'm not claiming to be a philisopher on anarchy, and no I haven't read that book. However I understand the general concept of the political stand point, and I know enough to gather what would happen to the world if it followed the same views.
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08-07-2009, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ArchLich
However I understand the general concept of the political stand point
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Clearly you don't.
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08-07-2009, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ArchLich
I'm not claiming to be a philisopher on anarchy, and no I haven't read that book. However I understand the general concept of the political stand point, and I know enough to gather what would happen to the world if it followed the same views.
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Actually, you don't, and it's very hypocritical that you called on xjin because she talks about anarchism when she hasn't actually read anything, when you haven't either.
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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08-07-2009, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
Actually, you don't, and it's very hypocritical that you called on xjin because she talks about anarchism when she hasn't actually read anything, when you haven't either.
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Excuse me but you've totally drawn the line bitch... How the fuck do you know whether I've "read anything" about anarchism or not... You are a complete idiot for making assumptions that you know absolutely, positively NOTHING about. oh yah your a BITCH!
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08-07-2009, 04:02 PM
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I defend you and you call me a bitch?
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I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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08-07-2009, 04:02 PM
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Oh and Archlich... don't call on me again..if you don't know what your talking about.
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08-07-2009, 04:03 PM
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Yes...because it's the only thing that I can think of when I read anything that you've written... maybe if you portrayed yourself differently I wouldn't think that.
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08-07-2009, 04:03 PM
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I was talking about the word Anarchy I didn't say Anarchism,So again you cluster fucked bags of shit,show me where I'm wrong.
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08-07-2009, 04:04 PM
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Vinidicated I did not mean that last post toward you.
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08-07-2009, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
Actually, you don't, and it's very hypocritical that you called on xjin because she talks about anarchism when she hasn't actually read anything, when you haven't either.
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The fact that she hadn't read anything on it was never mentioned in my post, it was the fact that based on her arguements she knew absolutely nothing about her own political views, which made me laugh.
If I am indeed wrong, and anarchy has somehow changed in meaning over the past 500 years, please enlighten me, because appearently the dictionary still thinks it means the same thing.
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08-07-2009, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05
I was talking about the word Anarchy I didn't say Anarchism,So again you cluster fucked bags of shit,show me where I'm wrong.
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Actually I agree in that you're talking about anarchy, but that only makes me wonder... why?
We were talking about anarchism.
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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08-07-2009, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05
I was talking about the word Anarchy I didn't say Anarchism,So again you cluster fucked bags of shit,show me where I'm wrong.
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So you're arguing the definition of an entirely different thing to what I'm talking about, and then applying it to what I'm talking about as a rebuke? Do you possess any sort of cognitive ability or are you somehow programmed to say whatever makes the least sense at any given moment?
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08-07-2009, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by vindicatedxjin
Yes...because it's the only thing that I can think of when I read anything that you've written... maybe if you portrayed yourself differently I wouldn't think that.
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Alright, so help us out. What anarchist writings have you read?
Notice my change in tone, so please cooperate here.
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I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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08-07-2009, 04:08 PM
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Seriously, I am getting bored of every political discussion turning into the pros and cons of anarchism, what anarchism means, whether it can be practically applied. Can everyone that doesn't understand it just promise to keep their mouths shut so that we don't have to keep going over this with you?
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08-07-2009, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JCC
So you're arguing the definition of an entirely different thing to what I'm talking about, and then applying it to what I'm talking about as a rebuke? Do you possess any sort of cognitive ability or are you somehow programmed to say whatever makes the least sense at any given moment?
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What does Anarchism stem from genius?
I'm talking about the Main Fucking Idea.
No rules,no law,no government of any type.
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08-07-2009, 04:16 PM
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What does liberalism stem from genius?
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I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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08-07-2009, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
What does liberalism stem from genius?
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Christianity
Now tell me exactly, what Anarchy Doesn't have to do with Anarchism?
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08-07-2009, 04:27 PM
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Only the same was Christianity has to do with being liberal.
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I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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08-07-2009, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05
Christianity
Now tell me exactly, what Anarchy Doesn't have to do with Anarchism?
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'Anarchy' as disorder is a reactionary misinterpretation of statelessness, with no socialist ideological precedent or conscientious thought towards practical application; it's essentially a straw man argument for people like you that are scared of statelessness. Even radically individualist anarchist philosophies acknowledge some sort of order, with only a negligible percentage actually basing a political belief on chaos, most of them being pretentious twats that have no real inclination to the philosophy that they're preaching. You'd know this if you'd actually bothered to find out about anarchism before spouting off about it.
Besides, even the definition of anarchy as disorder was the very last one; the word 'anarchy' is becoming more widely-known as representative of anarchism as a stateless socialist ideology rather than disorder anyway.
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08-07-2009, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
Only the same was Christianity has to do with being liberal.
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What the fuck,did you whack your head on the keyboard?
because I didn't understand that last sentence one bit.
Did you mean....only the same as Christianity has to do with being Liberal?
Okay so what you are saying is that Anarchy has NOTHING to do with Anarchism?
I still fail to see where I'm wrong on the issue,because Anarchism is about not having a system of Government right?
Anarchy is absence of Government.
So I'm correct in saying Anarchism is Disorder and Chaos.
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08-07-2009, 04:56 PM
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Also why the fuck would someone want to post about Anarchy in a Pro-gun/Anti-gun thread?
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08-07-2009, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05
Anarchy is absence of Government.
So I'm correct in saying Anarchism is Disorder and Chaos.
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That's one of the most idiotic things you have ever said.
That only makes sense if you believe that only government can stop disorder and chaos, a laughable assumption that is completely trumped by, let's say, the family unit. You don't need Government intervention for a family to not descend into 'disorder and chaos'
Great job. What the fuck happened to your hatred of the government and shit?
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I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
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People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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08-07-2009, 04:58 PM
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No, because if you think that the only form of order is government then you're an idiot.
EDIT: Fucking hell Jillian, are you refreshing the page every five seconds waiting for replies or something?
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08-07-2009, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05
Also why the fuck would someone want to post about Anarchy in a Pro-gun/Anti-gun thread?
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Some gun nut said they hated the government.
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08-07-2009, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
That's one of the most idiotic things you have ever said.
That only makes sense if you believe that only government can stop disorder and chaos, a laughable assumption that is completely trumped by, let's say, the family unit. You don't need Government intervention for a family to not descend into 'disorder and chaos'
Great job. What the fuck happened to your hatred of the government and shit?
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I never said I hated the Government,I said I hate what this Government of the people and for the people has turned into,although with some hard work the damage can be repaired.
It's up to the population to handle disorder and chaos,that is what gives Governments their strength.
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