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09-10-2009, 08:54 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kuiper Belt
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Originally Posted by vindicatedxjin
lol this is so hilarious!!!
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09-10-2009, 09:24 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: victoria british columbia
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I was recently told that I am a vampire freak and not truly a goth....I do not define myself as goth or not goth, simply an individual who is morbid, dark and intimidatingly scary...I really do not believe you can be the judge of another's soul or identity just by looking at their fashion. in the pages of their lives they may be completely dark and "goth" without ever identifying with the subculture. As well, I do not care if you are goth or not as long as you are an interesting individual. thank you for your dogma and overly simplistic watered down version of what goth truly is, maybe you aren't really a goth?
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09-11-2009, 02:53 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hell Hall
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what the hell is all that about.
non sense all the way trough.
WHAT?????????????
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09-11-2009, 09:47 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: North Florida
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Wow, am I ever glad I read this. I feel so enlightened. Before today, I never knew what "goth" was all about or how I ever got registered on a goth forum.
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09-12-2009, 08:56 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 62
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Originally Posted by Lolly PopMuzik
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teehee, that was excellent
Good advice, but I nearly developed a fear that I was one of the nerds. Then I realised I didn't weigh 300 pounds, but a mere 120, and I have more social skills than the aforementioned nerds . . . .hopefully.
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09-12-2009, 09:17 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: In a desert place
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Originally Posted by Lolly PopMuzik
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Goodness that site has a lot of nonsense in it amongst the good advice.
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09-12-2009, 09:19 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Clown shoes.
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09-12-2009, 09:27 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: North Florida
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I hadn't read that FAQ in ages. I'd forgotten how much it made me laugh. It's the kind of thing I wish came in stick form so I could beat the babybats over the head with it. Okay, maybe nerf form.
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09-14-2009, 06:25 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
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I love the fact that they mention The Horatii in the F.A.Q.
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09-17-2009, 04:18 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 152
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Originally Posted by Midnight Cinder
Fashion is a huge part of the gothic subculture. You cannot just say you're a goth if you are a normal person that just wears black T-shirts sometimes. Even if you 'act Goth' you still must dress like one and have other fashion necessities to be distinguished from the others as a Goth.
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Ahh, how about...No. In my opinion, Goth is a Musical Subculture based around a genre of Music that developed out of the Punk scene in England in the late 1970's. It is a person's interest in the music of the subculture that makes them a 'Goth'. Not what clothes they wear, how they do their makeup, or style their hair. Certainly the fashion, and look of 'Goth' is a part of it, but it does not define the subculture by itself. The music does, first and foremost.
I have been involved in the Gothic Subculture since 1984. I consider myself a Goth because I have an interest in, am a fan of, and listen to a genre of Music that has come to be known as 'Goth'. It is irrelevant to me whether I am dressed in jeans and a pink jumper, or decked out in all black funereal garb at the same time.
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09-26-2009, 07:08 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Xibalba. Or Menzoberranzan. Take your pick.
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Originally Posted by Emerald
Ahh, how about...No. In my opinion, Goth is a Musical Subculture based around a genre of Music that developed out of the Punk scene in England in the late 1970's. It is a person's interest in the music of the subculture that makes them a 'Goth'. Not what clothes they wear, how they do their makeup, or style their hair. Certainly the fashion, and look of 'Goth' is a part of it, but it does not define the subculture by itself. The music does, first and foremost.
I have been involved in the Gothic Subculture since 1984. I consider myself a Goth because I have an interest in, am a fan of, and listen to a genre of Music that has come to be known as 'Goth'. It is irrelevant to me whether I am dressed in jeans and a pink jumper, or decked out in all black funereal garb at the same time.
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This. Lots of this.
It's disappointing to find so many posts here clamoring about fashion being the big deciding factor, but I guess I'm not surprised.
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09-26-2009, 08:04 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: North Florida
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Music is, and always has been, the most important factor. It's the only thing I ever get "elder"-ly and crotchety with the babybats about. It was not my introduction to a dark and romantic aesthetic, but it was absolutely my introduction to the subculture - and those are two very different things.
But I do understand why such a disproportionate emphasis is put on fashion. [insert mumbo jumbo about social signifiers, subcultural capital, professed commitment, division of DIYers and goth-in-a-box-ers] I think it just comes down to this: it's a lot easier and more polite to spot one of our lot by looking over people's dress than by prying into the contents of everyone's iPods.
EDIT: I actually typed "Walkman" first *facepalm of senility*
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09-26-2009, 08:16 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Xibalba. Or Menzoberranzan. Take your pick.
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Originally Posted by Ophelia's Snorkel
Music is, and always has been, the most important factor. It's the only thing I ever get "elder"-ly and crotchety with the babybats about. It was not my introduction to a dark and romantic aesthetic, but it was absolutely my introduction to the subculture - and those are two very different things.
But I do understand why such a disproportionate emphasis is put on fashion. [insert mumbo jumbo about social signifiers, subcultural capital, professed commitment, division of DIYers and goth-in-a-box-ers] I think it just comes down to this: it's a lot easier and more polite to spot one of our lot by looking over people's dress than by prying into the contents of everyone's iPods.
EDIT: I actually typed "Walkman" first *facepalm of senility*
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I prefer the forbidden social act of talking to someone to find out their interests, personally.
I think the big emphasis on fashion is the typical pretentious ego-waving rampant in this subculture.
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09-27-2009, 02:51 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sunny South Wales
Posts: 69
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Originally Posted by Victor "Rilvor" Leonard
I prefer the forbidden social act of talking to someone to find out their interests, personally.
I think the big emphasis on fashion is the typical pretentious ego-waving rampant in this subculture.
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There's nothing wrong with liking clothes and enjoying fashion. I think it's self-delusional to think that your outfit will somehow draw fellow goths to you like some kind of ant pheremones, though, nor is a goth outfit some kind of badge of worth or merit.
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09-27-2009, 08:39 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 797
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Do you how many people are going to take a look at me and scream, "Hey! You're a Goth, aren't you?"?
Maybe zero in a thousand, at best.
Do you know how much I care?
About the same. Seriously, stupid thread, rather stupid concept. Can we forbid all conversation on this matter?
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09-27-2009, 09:20 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: SO-IL
Posts: 410
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I agree... this is stupid.
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09-27-2009, 03:22 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: United States
Posts: 340
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Originally Posted by Lolly PopMuzik
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A most amusing page, Miss Lolly. It resurrected fond memories of the sadly now defunct and vanished 'A Goth in the Night' webpage that was once brimming with Goth mockery and wit.
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09-28-2009, 06:05 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: San Diego
Posts: 13
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Well, what about a very few but unique individuals who cannot hear, therefore, they cannot listen to the music? Many people said goth is formed because of music and maybe fashion. Does that mean they are not Goth? Instead of music, they are passionate about dark literature and art. Would that count?
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09-28-2009, 06:12 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cali
Posts: 8,030
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If they like the feel of the vibrations then I suppose so, if not then no. The literature and art may share some sources of influence with the music but they are not all part of the same subculture.
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09-28-2009, 10:47 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Sheffield UK.
Posts: 2,065
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Hang on, what makes a deaf person unique?
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09-28-2009, 11:03 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cali
Posts: 8,030
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They can't hear the music.
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09-29-2009, 12:43 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 96
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Originally Posted by Saya
Who's this "us"? I didn't think we were an unified entity.
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Yeah, Goths are basically part of a hive mind. That's what I tell my nan anyway.
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09-29-2009, 01:10 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Sheffield UK.
Posts: 2,065
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Originally Posted by Solumina
They can't hear the music.
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That's not unique...
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09-29-2009, 05:10 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Back in Wisconsin(thinking about invading the south)
Posts: 3,693
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Originally Posted by AsylumVoid
Yeah, Goths are basically part of a hive mind. That's what I tell my nan anyway.
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We are the Borg, Resistance is futile.
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Originally Posted by Lolly PopMuzik
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Any idea if the creators still read their messages.
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09-29-2009, 06:18 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cali
Posts: 8,030
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Originally Posted by Still Jack
That's not unique...
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No but it makes it rather difficult to be a part of a subculture based on music.
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